Libertarian Utopia - You all sound stupid

[f8ta1ity54]

2 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

I'll give you credit. You got the first few lines right but then delved off into TDS land. With proper therapy from Dr. SackMan I have hope that we CAN cure you from your illness.

Ok, so tell me where I'm factually inaccurate, and tell me the real reason he has a lie count.

[SackMan518]

8 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Ok, so tell me where I'm factually inaccurate, and tell me the real reason he has a lie count.

Why? You're not going to listen anyway.

[f8ta1ity54]

4 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

Why? You're not going to listen anyway.

Lol 

Ok. 

Let's 

Go slow.

200k are dead due to covid, yes or no?

[Thebowflexbody]

15 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Lol 

Ok. 

Let's 

Go slow.

200k are dead due to covid, yes or no?

You have redefined the term "retarded".

[f8ta1ity54]

1 hour ago, Thebowflexbody said:

You have redefined the term "retarded".

Please tell me you will donate whatever void there is in your skull where a brain should be to science.

[HipKat]

2 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Please tell me you will donate whatever void there is in your skull where a brain should be to science.

The funny thing is that the guy who really has re-defined the word retard just accused you of redefining the word retard LOL

[SackMan518]

12 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Lol 

Ok. 

Let's 

Go slow.

200k are dead due to covid, yes or no?

200K are dead, no doubt. If that was SOLELY due to COVID-19 is in dispute.

[f8ta1ity54]

1 hour ago, SackMan518 said:

200K are dead, no doubt. If that was SOLELY due to COVID-19 is in dispute.

Is it? By who?

[Meathead]

this was good

did you write that? if so, it was exceptional. if not, id appreciate a link. if you have one, put it in the op. at least tell us where it came from

why dont you just apologize for calling me a racist and ill take you off ignore. i want to see threads like this where you dominate

[f8ta1ity54]

31 minutes ago, Meathead said:

this was good

did you write that? if so, it was exceptional. if not, id appreciate a link. if you have one, put it in the op. at least tell us where it came from

why dont you just apologize for calling me a racist and ill take you off ignore. i want to see threads like this where you dominate

https://amp.reddit.com/r/EnoughLibertarianSpam/comments/cn6m6r/the_tale_of_archibald_elbert/

Well its hard to tell the difference between a racist and someone who just pushes their propaganda.

I get it. You hate ghetto culture. I'm not a fan of it either.

Where we differ is simple.

You boil it down to personal responsibility and you think that since things are "better" than they were that its not so bad.

I think that is illogical. You can't assign personal responsibility to an entire population of people. I think its illogical to believe that because something is better that it means it doesn't still suck.

I'll do a post on a heather mcdonald pragerU  video soon. I'll outline all of her bullshit.

[HipKat]

56 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

https://amp.reddit.com/r/EnoughLibertarianSpam/comments/cn6m6r/the_tale_of_archibald_elbert/

Well its hard to tell the difference between a racist and someone who just pushes their propaganda.

I get it. You hate ghetto culture. I'm not a fan of it either.

Where we differ is simple.

You boil it down to personal responsibility and you think that since things are "better" than they were that its not so bad.

I think that is illogical. You can't assign personal responsibility to an entire population of people. I think its illogical to believe that because something is better that it means it doesn't still suck.

I'll do a post on a heather mcdonald pragerU  video soon. I'll outline all of her bullshit.

I'm with you. I HATE ghetto culture and I agree that people in the black community have to stand up to the crime in their neighborhoods, btu I also see it as so ingrained and so much a part of the culture that they feel helpless and in many cases, hostages in their own communities. I think Meat sees more of an "on-the-surface" view of the issue. 

[f8ta1ity54]

7 minutes ago, HipKat said:

I'm with you. I HATE ghetto culture and I agree that people in the black community have to stand up to the crime in their neighborhoods, btu I also see it as so ingrained and so much a part of the culture that they feel helpless and in many cases, hostages in their own communities. I think Meat sees more of an "on-the-surface" view of the issue. 

Exactly. 

[SackMan518]

3 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Is it? By who?

Mostly comorbid conditions. Only 6% dead solely from COVID-19. The media has done a hatchet job on the stat but saying that if they had it the virus is still a killer but that's bogus. We all know that if you have health issues whatever infectious disease you catch whether it's COVID-19, the flu, meningitis, tuberculosis, or anything else it can be the final straw to break the camel's back.

 

COVID-19 Primary, Not Only, Cause of 94% of Deaths (WebMD)

September 1, 2020 -- About 94% of people who have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. also had other contributing conditions listed on their death certificates, according to new data released by the CDC.

On average, patients’ records had 2.6 additional conditions. Only 6% of deaths listed COVID-19 as the only cause.

The phrasing in the report has caused confusion on social media, according to The Miami Herald. The data doesn’t indicate that 94% of deaths were caused by other conditions, but rather, that 94% of people who died from COVID-19 had at least one other health condition when they died.

The vast majority had conditions such as respiratory failure, blood clots and stroke, which can be caused by the coronavirus itself. Others had underlying diseases such as hypertension, heart failure, sepsis and diabetes, which may have been preexisting conditions.

“Those saying ‘only 6% die from COVID-19 alone,’ or some derivation thereof, don’t understand how infectious diseases work,” Ryan McNamara, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and a virologist who studies HIV, wrote in a Twitter post.

With HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, certain immune system cells are depleted and can’t prevent other infections. Pneumonia and cancer are often listed as contributing conditions and causes of death in patients who have HIV, he explained.

“So things like cardiac arrest, renal failure, liver failure, sepsis, lung scarring, etc. can all occur post-infection with SARS-CoV-2, leading to death,” he wrote.

In the CDC database with 161,000 death certificates, all list COVID-19 as the cause of death.

“Reports like this help us get more understanding of what increases your risk for having a bad outcome from COVID but it doesn’t change the fact that COVID is more lethal than other viruses,” Amy Edwards, an infectious disease specialist at University Hospitals in Cleveland, told Cleveland 19.

“Sometimes you can have multiple — four, five, six contributing factors — but there is still that primary cause of death,” she explained. “And in 95% of COVID-related deaths, COVID was the primary cause of death but there were contributing factors.”

 

[f8ta1ity54]

44 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

Mostly comorbid conditions. Only 6% dead solely from COVID-19. The media has done a hatchet job on the stat but saying that if they had it the virus is still a killer but that's bogus. We all know that if you have health issues whatever infectious disease you catch whether it's COVID-19, the flu, meningitis, tuberculosis, or anything else it can be the final straw to break the camel's back.

COVID-19 Primary, Not Only, Cause of 94% of Deaths (WebMD)

September 1, 2020 -- About 94% of people who have died from COVID-19 in the U.S. also had other contributing conditions listed on their death certificates, according to new data released by the CDC.

On average, patients’ records had 2.6 additional conditions. Only 6% of deaths listed COVID-19 as the only cause.

The phrasing in the report has caused confusion on social media, according to The Miami Herald. The data doesn’t indicate that 94% of deaths were caused by other conditions, but rather, that 94% of people who died from COVID-19 had at least one other health condition when they died.

The vast majority had conditions such as respiratory failure, blood clots and stroke, which can be caused by the coronavirus itself. Others had underlying diseases such as hypertension, heart failure, sepsis and diabetes, which may have been preexisting conditions.

“Those saying ‘only 6% die from COVID-19 alone,’ or some derivation thereof, don’t understand how infectious diseases work,” Ryan McNamara, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and a virologist who studies HIV, wrote in a Twitter post.

With HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, certain immune system cells are depleted and can’t prevent other infections. Pneumonia and cancer are often listed as contributing conditions and causes of death in patients who have HIV, he explained.

“So things like cardiac arrest, renal failure, liver failure, sepsis, lung scarring, etc. can all occur post-infection with SARS-CoV-2, leading to death,” he wrote.

In the CDC database with 161,000 death certificates, all list COVID-19 as the cause of death.

“Reports like this help us get more understanding of what increases your risk for having a bad outcome from COVID but it doesn’t change the fact that COVID is more lethal than other viruses,” Amy Edwards, an infectious disease specialist at University Hospitals in Cleveland, told Cleveland 19.

“Sometimes you can have multiple — four, five, six contributing factors — but there is still that primary cause of death,” she explained. “And in 95% of COVID-related deaths, COVID was the primary cause of death but there were contributing factors.”

LoL what do you think this proves?

[HipKat]

2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

LoL what do you think this proves?

It proves that if you had pre-existing health issues, COVID-19 accelerated your demise. Again, COVID-19 accelerated their deaths. But the people on the wrong side of this issue wanna make it seem like these people died from their other health issues.

[f8ta1ity54]

6 minutes ago, HipKat said:

It proves that if you had pre-existing health issues, COVID-19 accelerated your demise. Again, COVID-19 accelerated their deaths. But the people on the wrong side of this issue wanna make it seem like these people died from their other health issues.

Lol I know its so dumb. Its like saying if I have stage 4 cancer and I get into a severe head on car crash and die, that i obviously died of cancer. 

 

[SackMan518]

24 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

LoL what do you think this proves?

That it's not lethal enough to justify these shut downs.

[HipKat]

33 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Lol I know its so dumb. Its like saying if I have stage 4 cancer and I get into a severe head on car crash and die, that i obviously died of cancer. 

Exactly!

[f8ta1ity54]

37 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

That it's not lethal enough to justify these shut downs.

It is if half the population has at least one comorbidity.

[SackMan518]

7 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

It is if half the population has at least one comorbidity.

That sounds more like an indictment of the slothful junk food chomping land whales most of America has become.

[f8ta1ity54]

29 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

That sounds more like an indictment of the slothful junk food chomping land whales most of America has become.

Ok? So they deserve to die? 

We've gotten so far from your argument. 

[SackMan518]

19 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Ok? So they deserve to die? 

We've gotten so far from your argument. 

I don't know how you got that from my statement. No one "deserves" to die but it's a fact that the American diet is absolutely horrible and leads to these chronic illnesses like diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and others that could be avoided with a solid nutritional regimen.

[f8ta1ity54]

Why or how people in the US have high comorbility is irrelevant. So that makes your argument stupid.

 

When there are food deserts all over the country and the cheapest food is unhealthy, what do you expect. 

13 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

I don't know how you got that from my statement. No one "deserves" to die but it's a fact that the American diet is absolutely horrible and leads to these chronic illnesses like diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and others that could be avoided with a solid nutritional regimen.

 

[HipKat]

3 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Why or how people in the US have high comorbility is irrelevant. So that makes your argument stupid.

When there are food deserts all over the country and the cheapest food is unhealthy, what do you expect. 

He is right, though. Obesity is a glaring problem that is only getting worse and worse

[f8ta1ity54]

Just now, HipKat said:

He is right, though. Obesity is a glaring problem that is only getting worse and worse

True. And I addressed that. But its still irrelevant. It's also not the only comorbidity.