Is Joe Biden Just Too Old to be President??? *****

[Woody]

34 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Pure bullshit.  Nice attempt to prop Biden up.  You cannot possibly be serious.  The man has lost it.

 

It's all about the thing man!  It's going to work!  Peace out! 

 

 

[Thebowflexbody]

19 minutes ago, Woody said:

It's all about the thing man!  It's going to work!  Peace out! 

WTF?????  LOL.  This clown is a week away from a drool bucket if he's not already using one.  The elevator just doesn't go all the way to the top.  That is sad.  Just what we want in a President!

[rcas0308]

3 hours ago, 212frawk said:

You fucking ppl are the absolute worst..... 

Wow billionaires in west palm taking photos together what a surprise. Nice work detective. How about the flight manifest to the creep island you see trump on that? Your head is so full of BS sensationalism. Everyone knows that Epstein catered to Hollywood/Politicans leftist that hate Trump. Of coarse they want to implement trump in it....that's what liars do deflect and call the kettle black. Everyone expected them to blame everything on Trump because we already knew who the players were and we know how they operate. That's why Epstein killed himself🤣  But you have to be special kind of stupid to believe that nonsense. It's was only a matter of time before a sensationalist dumb ass photo all rich people take together was gonna be shown as proof. Everyone knew Epstein and saw him out in West Palm. But your so caught up with a photo of deflection to acknowledge who the didlers are that went to pervert island on the regular? The ones who knew Epstein the best. 

[rcas0308]

3 hours ago, 212frawk said:

lol ok, fucking fatass wants to fuck his own daughter and I know you MAGATs are just fine with that.  So tell me again who is the creepy one....

Mind readers huh, Ive seen those all through Trumps presidency. Passing it off as facts. The truth is only sick fucks would go there because that's were their mind constantly leads them. 

[Thebowflexbody]

Just now, rcas0308 said:

Only sick fucks would go there because that's were there mind leads them. 

You got that right.

[jc856]

We need to make sure jizzstain stays alive. Oops, apparently her name is ghislaine 

[Thebowflexbody]

2 hours ago, Woody said:

It's all about the thing man!  It's going to work!  Peace out! 

I hate it when old fools like Biden try to sound "hip".  He says "man" way too much.  Cringe inducing.

[Woody]

3 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

I hate it when old fools like Biden try to sound "hip".  He says "man" way too much.  Cringe inducing.

C'mon man!  You know you like it! 

[SackMan518]

Short answer, yes but I don't think it will be stunning.

Are we being set up for another stunning Trump win?

 

With five months until the election, things couldn’t look any worse for the president of the United States. His approval rating is down to 40%. People are getting tired of his antics and the insults he hurls at his opponents. The media is increasingly confident that, come November, the voters will elect a new chief executive.

This might sound like June 2020, but I’m actually referring to June 1948 — when President Harry Truman, a Democrat, was running to keep his job against Republican Thomas Dewey.

The similarities between the 1948 and 2020 elections are striking. Like President Trump, Truman often ruffled feathers with his salty language. At one point, Truman even described Dewey as a fascist, a term not taken lightly just three years after World War II.

Just as with Trump, the media described Truman as desperate and unhinged. They mocked him for the more than 8,000 empty chairs at a speech he gave in Nebraska — presaging the coverage of Trump’s recent speech in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Almost everyone thought Truman would lose, including the president’s mother-in-law. A Newsweek poll reported 50 out of 50 politicos predicting a Dewey victory.

But on Nov. 3, 1948, the world woke up to the stunning news that Truman had won. The experts were left struggling to make sense of how they got it so wrong.

Today, we’re seeing poll after poll showing Trump trailing former Vice President Joe Biden. In the echo chamber of cable news and social media, there’s a growing consensus that Trump is headed for humiliating defeat.

Are the pundits right, or are we moving toward another stunning win by a beleaguered incumbent? Could history be repeating itself?

The 1948 election warns us that an upset is very possible. There are two dynamics at work in 2020 that were decisive that fateful year.

The first is political staying power. Prior to 1948, the Democrats had won four straight presidential elections. Many observers assumed that they were due for a loss, especially with the GOP’s large gains in the 1946 midterm elections. The media, however, underestimated the strength of the Democrats’ New Deal coalition. While commentators were thinking in terms of political cycles and party turnover, they failed to consider the New Deal’s long-term appeal for its constituents.

Today’s pundits might be making the same mistake with Trump’s 2016 coalition. Throughout the Mueller investigation, the impeachment process, the pandemic, and record unemployment, Trump’s approval rating in the RealClearPolitics average has remained surprisingly consistent (around the mid-to-low 40s), showing that at least 4 out of 10 people support the president regardless of whatever the opposition throws up. That may not be sufficient to guarantee victory, but it’s a precious asset in a general election — especially with Democratic enthusiasm for Biden comparatively low.

The second factor is that people often vote for incumbent presidents based on certain intangibles (leadership skills or likability) despite the candidate’s perceived flaws or policy disagreements. The Washington Post alluded to this phenomenon after Truman’s victory: “The American people admire a man with courage even though they don’t always agree with him.” The voters might even give the opposing party control of Congress during the midterm elections to check that president, but they will still reelect a flawed incumbent because of their supposed charisma (see Bill Clinton and Barack Obama) or boldness (see Truman).

Like Trump, Truman was seen as a fighter who was not afraid to go against the political establishment. And like Biden, Dewey was an uninspiring candidate who, because of overconfidence, played it safe and limited his public appearances.

It is possible that in a dangerous and unpredictable world, voters will prefer a feisty and aggressive Trump over a lackluster Biden.

Despite all of this, Biden could still win in November. But if history can teach us anything, it is that the experts can get it wrong. We don’t even have to go back to 1948. Exactly four years ago (in June 2016), Hillary Clinton led Trump in the polls by 5 percentage points. The night before the election, the intelligentsia was still confidently predicting a Clinton win. The next day, Trump stunned the world.

 

[nealpellecchia@yahoo]

On 7/8/2020 at 8:30 AM, Flan said:

A 72 and 77 year lod are our choices for president.

It takes all those years to sift through the shit...

[thinwhiteduke]

On 7/8/2020 at 6:08 AM, Thebowflexbody said:

Sure looks that way to me and I'm not trying to be mean.  Don't think this obvious one-termer is up to the task.  That makes his VP choice even more important and it appears he's considering nothing but trash.  And "trash" isn't a racial thing so don't go there.  Anyone with those ideas I'd consider trash.  Thoughts? 

Whether anyone thinks he is or not, is irrelevant. 

The elite picked him to be all part of the political  show.

[SackMan518]

 

[Thebowflexbody]

Biden = Dead from the neck up

[HipKat]

On 7/8/2020 at 8:08 AM, Thebowflexbody said:

Sure looks that way to me and I'm not trying to be mean.  Don't think this obvious one-termer is up to the task.  That makes his VP choice even more important and it appears he's considering nothing but trash.  And "trash" isn't a racial thing so don't go there.  Anyone with those ideas I'd consider trash.  Thoughts? 

Uh-huh....

As coronavirus cases surge and states rollback re-openings, former Vice President Joe Biden opens up his biggest lead this year over President Donald Trump in the race for the White House. Registered voters back Biden over Trump 52 - 37 percent, according to a Quinnipiac.

BIDEN VS. TRUMP: THE ISSUES
Voters say 50 - 45 percent that Biden would do a better job handling the economy, a reversal from June when Trump held a slight lead 51 - 46 percent.

* On handling a crisis, Biden leads 57 - 38 percent
* On handling health care, Biden leads 58 - 35 percent
* On the coronavirus response, Biden leads 59 - 35 percent
* On addressing racial inequality, Biden leads 62 - 30 percent.

BIDEN VS. TRUMP: PERSONAL TRAITS
When asked about whether the candidates are honest, have good leadership skills and whether they care about average Americans, President Trump receives some of his worst scores ever.

Honesty:
Trump: 31 percent say "yes;" 66 percent say "no;"
Biden: 46 percent say "yes;" 42 percent say "no."

Good Leadership Skills:
Trump: 35 percent say "yes;" 63 percent say "no;"
Biden: 49 percent say "yes;" 42 percent say "no."

Cares About Average Americans:
Trump: 37 percent say "yes;" 61 percent say "no;"
Biden: 59 percent say "yes;" 33 percent say "no."

TRUMP JOB APPROVAL
Voters give President Trump a negative 36 - 60 percent job approval rating, a 6 point drop in his job approval compared to last month. In that June 18th poll, Trump had a negative 42 - 55 percent job approval rating. Trump's net job approval is his worst since August of 2017.

TRUMP'S HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY
President Trump's approval rating on the economy is underwater as voters approve 44 - 53 percent, compared to his 52 - 45 percent approval rating on the economy in June. Today's numbers are his worst net score on the economy since August of 2017.

TRUMP'S HANDLING OF OTHER ISSUES
On handling the military, voters give the president a negative 41 - 51 percent approval.
On handling foreign policy, voters give the president a negative 37 - 59 percent approval.
On handling health care, voters give the president a negative 35 - 59 percent approval.
On handling race relations, voters give the president a negative 31 - 65 percent approval.

CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE
Voters give the president a negative 35 - 62 percent approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus response, his lowest mark since the question was first asked in March.
A clear majority of voters, 62 - 31 percent, say they think President Trump is hurting rather than helping efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

"Trump's strongest card, the economy, shredded by a killer virus, may have left the president with no go- to issue or trait to stave off defeat... not leadership, not empathy, not foreign policy, and certainly not his handling of COVID-19," said Malloy.

CORONAVIRUS INFECTIONS
For the first time, a majority, 53 - 46 percent, have either been or personally know someone who has been infected by the coronavirus.

TRUSTING INFORMATION ABOUT CORONAVIRUS: TRUMP, FAUCI, CDC
Two-thirds, 67 - 30 percent, say they do not trust the information President Trump is providing about the coronavirus.
Conversely, nearly two-thirds, 65 - 26 percent, say they trust the information Dr. Anthony Fauci is providing about the coronavirus.
Roughly 6 in 10, 61 to 33 percent, say they trust the information the CDC is providing about the coronavirus.

"He may be out of the loop and in disfavor with the White House, but it's clear from the numbers, voters would like Dr. Fauci back on call," Malloy added.

RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS
Voters say more than 2 to 1, 61 - 29 percent, that they disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling the re-opening of schools.
They also say 2 to 1, 62 - 31 percent, that they think it will be unsafe to send students to elementary, middle, or high school in the fall.
A slightly smaller number, 59 - 34 percent, say they think it will be unsafe to send students to college in the fall.

WEARING OF MASKS
Slightly more than 7 in 10 Americans, 71 - 26 percent, think everyone should be required to wear face masks in public.
They also say, 73 - 21 percent, that President Trump should wear a face mask when he is out in public.
A slightly higher number, 80 - 17 percent, believe masks or face coverings are effective in slowing the spread of the coronavirus.

RUSSIA & REPORTS OF BOUNTIES FOR KILLING U.S. SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN
77 percent of voters say they are either "very concerned" or "somewhat concerned" about reports that Russia paid bounties for the killing of American soldiers in Afghanistan. 20 percent say they are "not so concerned" or "not concerned at all."

59 percent say they think President Trump is not telling the truth regarding what he knew about reports of Russian payments to kill American troops. Twenty-nine percent say they think he is telling the truth.

Voters say 62 - 25 percent that they are not satisfied with President Trump's response to the reports of Russian payments to kill American troops.

CONFEDERATE SYMBOLS

Voters say 54 - 40 percent they support removing Confederate statues from public spaces around the country.
Voters support 51 - 42 percent renaming military bases named after Confederate generals.
A majority, 56 percent, see the Confederate flag more as a symbol of racism. Thirty-five percent see it more as a symbol of Southern pride.

SUPREME COURT
Fifty-two percent of voters approve of the way the United States Supreme Court is handling its job. Thirty-seven percent disapprove.
While 36 percent say the Supreme Court is "too conservative," 37 percent say it is "about right," and 19 percent say it is "too liberal."
1,273 self-identified registered voters nationwide were surveyed from July 9 - 13 with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points.

[Thebowflexbody]

1 hour ago, HipKat said:

Uh-huh....

As coronavirus cases surge and states rollback re-openings, former Vice President Joe Biden opens up his biggest lead this year over President Donald Trump in the race for the White House. Registered voters back Biden over Trump 52 - 37 percent, according to a Quinnipiac.

BIDEN VS. TRUMP: THE ISSUES
Voters say 50 - 45 percent that Biden would do a better job handling the economy, a reversal from June when Trump held a slight lead 51 - 46 percent.

* On handling a crisis, Biden leads 57 - 38 percent
* On handling health care, Biden leads 58 - 35 percent
* On the coronavirus response, Biden leads 59 - 35 percent
* On addressing racial inequality, Biden leads 62 - 30 percent.

BIDEN VS. TRUMP: PERSONAL TRAITS
When asked about whether the candidates are honest, have good leadership skills and whether they care about average Americans, President Trump receives some of his worst scores ever.

Honesty:
Trump: 31 percent say "yes;" 66 percent say "no;"
Biden: 46 percent say "yes;" 42 percent say "no."

Good Leadership Skills:
Trump: 35 percent say "yes;" 63 percent say "no;"
Biden: 49 percent say "yes;" 42 percent say "no."

Cares About Average Americans:
Trump: 37 percent say "yes;" 61 percent say "no;"
Biden: 59 percent say "yes;" 33 percent say "no."

TRUMP JOB APPROVAL
Voters give President Trump a negative 36 - 60 percent job approval rating, a 6 point drop in his job approval compared to last month. In that June 18th poll, Trump had a negative 42 - 55 percent job approval rating. Trump's net job approval is his worst since August of 2017.

TRUMP'S HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY
President Trump's approval rating on the economy is underwater as voters approve 44 - 53 percent, compared to his 52 - 45 percent approval rating on the economy in June. Today's numbers are his worst net score on the economy since August of 2017.

TRUMP'S HANDLING OF OTHER ISSUES
On handling the military, voters give the president a negative 41 - 51 percent approval.
On handling foreign policy, voters give the president a negative 37 - 59 percent approval.
On handling health care, voters give the president a negative 35 - 59 percent approval.
On handling race relations, voters give the president a negative 31 - 65 percent approval.

CORONAVIRUS RESPONSE
Voters give the president a negative 35 - 62 percent approval rating for his handling of the coronavirus response, his lowest mark since the question was first asked in March.
A clear majority of voters, 62 - 31 percent, say they think President Trump is hurting rather than helping efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

"Trump's strongest card, the economy, shredded by a killer virus, may have left the president with no go- to issue or trait to stave off defeat... not leadership, not empathy, not foreign policy, and certainly not his handling of COVID-19," said Malloy.

CORONAVIRUS INFECTIONS
For the first time, a majority, 53 - 46 percent, have either been or personally know someone who has been infected by the coronavirus.

TRUSTING INFORMATION ABOUT CORONAVIRUS: TRUMP, FAUCI, CDC
Two-thirds, 67 - 30 percent, say they do not trust the information President Trump is providing about the coronavirus.
Conversely, nearly two-thirds, 65 - 26 percent, say they trust the information Dr. Anthony Fauci is providing about the coronavirus.
Roughly 6 in 10, 61 to 33 percent, say they trust the information the CDC is providing about the coronavirus.

"He may be out of the loop and in disfavor with the White House, but it's clear from the numbers, voters would like Dr. Fauci back on call," Malloy added.

RE-OPENING OF SCHOOLS
Voters say more than 2 to 1, 61 - 29 percent, that they disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling the re-opening of schools.
They also say 2 to 1, 62 - 31 percent, that they think it will be unsafe to send students to elementary, middle, or high school in the fall.
A slightly smaller number, 59 - 34 percent, say they think it will be unsafe to send students to college in the fall.

WEARING OF MASKS
Slightly more than 7 in 10 Americans, 71 - 26 percent, think everyone should be required to wear face masks in public.
They also say, 73 - 21 percent, that President Trump should wear a face mask when he is out in public.
A slightly higher number, 80 - 17 percent, believe masks or face coverings are effective in slowing the spread of the coronavirus.

RUSSIA & REPORTS OF BOUNTIES FOR KILLING U.S. SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN
77 percent of voters say they are either "very concerned" or "somewhat concerned" about reports that Russia paid bounties for the killing of American soldiers in Afghanistan. 20 percent say they are "not so concerned" or "not concerned at all."

59 percent say they think President Trump is not telling the truth regarding what he knew about reports of Russian payments to kill American troops. Twenty-nine percent say they think he is telling the truth.

Voters say 62 - 25 percent that they are not satisfied with President Trump's response to the reports of Russian payments to kill American troops.

CONFEDERATE SYMBOLS

Voters say 54 - 40 percent they support removing Confederate statues from public spaces around the country.
Voters support 51 - 42 percent renaming military bases named after Confederate generals.
A majority, 56 percent, see the Confederate flag more as a symbol of racism. Thirty-five percent see it more as a symbol of Southern pride.

SUPREME COURT
Fifty-two percent of voters approve of the way the United States Supreme Court is handling its job. Thirty-seven percent disapprove.
While 36 percent say the Supreme Court is "too conservative," 37 percent say it is "about right," and 19 percent say it is "too liberal."
1,273 self-identified registered voters nationwide were surveyed from July 9 - 13 with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points.

Source?  Clearly biased against our President.

[HipKat]

14 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Source?  Clearly biased against our President.

I understand you’re stupid but there’s a link at the very top of the post, moron. And you don’t have to close the whole long post

[Thebowflexbody]

2 hours ago, HipKat said:

I understand you’re stupid but there’s a link at the very top of the post, moron. And you don’t have to close the whole long post

What the hell kind of "source" is that???  LOL.  You'll believe absolutely anything that's anti-Trump.  Idiot.  Become educated.

[212frawk]

1 hour ago, Thebowflexbody said:

What the hell kind of "source" is that???  LOL.  You'll believe absolutely anything that's anti-Trump.  Idiot.  Become educated.

the next time you offer evidence-based criticism will be the first.  

[Thebowflexbody]

12 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

the next time you offer evidence-based criticism will be the first.  

"Evidence" is in the eye of the beholder.  What is put out as "evidence" around here is usually a blatantly biased article, etc.  I could do the same all the time, but I just don't see the point.  No one around here is changing anyone else's mind about who to vote for.  I'd be shocked if even one person had their mind changed by discussions on this board.

[212frawk]

13 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

"Evidence" is in the eye of the beholder.  What is put out as "evidence" around here is usually a blatantly biased article, etc.  I could do the same all the time, but I just don't see the point.  No one around here is changing anyone else's mind about who to vote for.  I'd be shocked if even one person had their mind changed by discussions on this board.

you literally never substantiate your comments, whether by biased sources or neutral.  It makes you look retarded.  

Wait Im sorry, are you actually retarded?  Shit, that was mean of me. 

[Thebowflexbody]

18 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

you literally never substantiate your comments, whether by biased sources or neutral.  It makes you look retarded.  

Wait Im sorry, are you actually retarded?  Shit, that was mean of me. 

You know, it really was.  LOL.  Biased sources don't "substantiate" anything.  I could "back up" my opinions with a bunch of articles that many around here would just scoff at if you wish.  Again, I don't see the point.  Do you want me to be Jungle-like and flood the board with what you'd likely consider bullshit and not read?  I can go either way now.

[212frawk]

2 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

You know, it really was.  LOL.  Biased sources don't "substantiate" anything.  I could "back up" my opinions with a bunch of articles that many around here would just scoff at if you wish.  Again, I don't see the point.  Do you want me to be Jungle-like and flood the board with what you'd likely consider bullshit and not read?  I can go either way now.

Maybe dont treat it like a fucking binary choice.  You would be taken a lot more seriously if you even bothered go give a basic rationale for why you say the (otherwise stupid) things you say. 

However, DO NOT FLOOD THE BOARD WITH JUNGLE LEVEL SPAM. That just gets you put on ignore and we dont want that now do we?

Thanks in advance. 

[Thebowflexbody]

4 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

Maybe dont treat it like a fucking binary choice.  You would be taken a lot more seriously if you even bothered go give a basic rationale for why you say the (otherwise stupid) things you say. 

However, DO NOT FLOOD THE BOARD WITH JUNGLE LEVEL SPAM. That just gets you put on ignore and we dont want that now do we?

Thanks in advance. 

Yeah.  Jungle-like behavior would be pretty cruel to my fellow posters.  Can't do that.  Well, maybe to Hip-Kat.  My posts are always well thought out and credible, by the way. 

[HipKat]

8 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

What the hell kind of "source" is that???  LOL.  You'll believe absolutely anything that's anti-Trump.  Idiot.  Become educated.

You're fucking hopeless. Quinnipiac is one of the most respected Polling entities in the business.

[HipKat]

6 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

"Evidence" is in the eye of the beholder.  What is put out as "evidence" around here is usually a blatantly biased article, etc.  I could do the same all the time, but I just don't see the point.  No one around here is changing anyone else's mind about who to vote for.  I'd be shocked if even one person had their mind changed by discussions on this board.

Hey fucktard. If you thihnk it's bullshit, actually post something that factually disputes it instead of your kindergarten one-sentence denials