I love what the Browns are doing

[LiterateStylish]

And more specifically John Dorsey.

 

I said 3 years ago (and some of you laughed), that Dorsey is an AMAZING general manager. The best in the league.

 

In 18 months, he took a Browns team that couldn’t win a SINGLE GAME and have turned them into a team that will probably win 12+ games.

 

In 12 months, he assembled a top 10 QB, top 3 WR, top 10 WR, top 5 RB, top 10 rb, top 10 TE, top 5 CB, and now just drafted the best DB in the draft in the 2nd round.

 

Dorsey came into Cleveland and said “process? Pffft. 3 year rebuild? Pfft. Give me 1 year and I’ll fix this shit”.

[whorlnut]

Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite.

[junglesouljah]

Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite.

 

Beane has done a phenomenal job rebuilding Buffalo's offense.

[VolsBillsMagic]

Mayfield is not a top 10 qb yet. Quit trying to defend your love of the Browns because they gave Tyrod a shot and failed miserably

[bcw]

Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite.

 

I was about to say the same exact thing.

 

The Bills just added two linemen that most mocks had gone before our picks.

 

Sure, other teams will land good players too but I'm a Bills fan and I'm thrilled about the pieces we have added the past 2 days.

[B LO]

And more specifically John Dorsey.

 

I said 3 years ago (and some of you laughed), that Dorsey is an AMAZING general manager. The best in the league.

 

In 18 months, he took a Browns team that couldn’t win a SINGLE GAME and have turned them into a team that will probably win 12+ games.

 

In 12 months, he assembled a top 10 QB, top 3 WR, top 10 WR, top 5 RB, top 10 rb, top 10 TE, top 5 CB, and now just drafted the best DB in the draft in the 2nd round.

 

Dorsey came into Cleveland and said “process? Pffft. 3 year rebuild? Pfft. Give me 1 year and I’ll fix this shit”.

 

So what... You say a lot of things.

 

He inherited a team that already had:

TWO CONSECUTIVE #1overall picks.

#4 overall pick

Crazy cap space

 

Almost any GM could do what he's done.

 

But they wouldn't trade a high pick for a Tyrod.

 

I will continue to laugh.

[StraightJ]

Beane has done a phenomenal job rebuilding Buffalo's offense.

 

I feel safe enough saying this to you, because we're cool(I think?), but in Lit's defense, Beane one hell of a job destroying the offense first. The line in particular. We should be grateful Josh Allen and Shady are still healthy.

[bcw]

I feel safe enough saying this to you, because we're cool(I think?), but in Lit's defense, Beane one hell of a job destroying the offense first. The line in particular. We should be grateful Josh Allen and Shady are still healthy.

 

Beane didn't destroy the o-line.

 

Wood got hurt and Incognito went off the deep end. You can't blame Beane for that.

 

Maybe you can make a case for Glenn but he was expensive, underperformed last year and Beane was stockpiling every pick he could get to land Josh Allen.

[theAteam]

They look good but I'll believe 12 wins when I see it.

 

I see it just as likely things get rocky and all those egos start to turn on each other.

[The Beef]

Both teams have done extremely well the last 2 years.

 

However, Baker was/is light years ahead of Allen (and I've really come along on Allen).

 

Baltimore hit on their home run trade OBJ, we did not.

 

I'll say this, with the addition of Oliver and if a mini-miracle in Ansah happens, our defense might be extra nasty.

 

Beane was judicious like he said, however I feel our offense still needs that one true game breaker/mismatch.

 

We don't have that yet. We have a plethora of niche guys at WR who should work as a hole, and an old but feasible RB by committe.

 

This team has upgraded significantly, however it is heavily reliant on Allen making a big jump this year.

[LiterateStylish]

Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite.

 

Where did I bitch?

[LiterateStylish]

Both teams have done extremely well the last 2 years.

 

However, Baker was/is light years ahead of Allen (and I've really come along on Allen).

 

Baltimore hit on their home run trade OBJ, we did not.

 

I'll say this, with the addition of Oliver and if a mini-miracle in Ansah happens, our defense might be extra nasty.

 

Beane was judicious like he said, however I feel our offense still needs that one true game breaker/mismatch.

 

We don't have that yet. We have a plethora of niche guys at WR who should work as a hole, and an old but feasible RB by committe.

 

This team has upgraded significantly, however it is heavily reliant on Allen making a big jump this year.

 

I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman.

 

We signed backups and super average o-linemen.

[StraightJ]

Beane didn't destroy the o-line.

 

Wood got hurt and Incognito went off the deep end. You can't blame Beane for that.

 

Maybe you can make a case for Glenn but he was expensive, underperformed last year and Beane was stockpiling every pick he could get to land Josh Allen.

 

My issue, which others have also amply noted, is that Beane had time to fix those things. They didnt happen a week before the season. That line was not NFL caliber, and I dont blame Shady for making tweets about Alabama having a better line.

[bcw]

My issue, which others have also amply noted, is that Beane had time to fix those things. They didnt happen a week before the season. That line was not NFL caliber, and I dont blame Shady for making tweets about Alabama having a better line.

 

With what money?

 

They knew last year would be a rebuild. It was rough but this wasn't a playoff team regardless.

[junglesouljah]

I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman.

 

We signed backups and super average o-linemen.

 

Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency.

 

Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney.

 

Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll.

[B LO]

I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman.

 

We signed backups and super average o-linemen.

 

Nobody said all-pro. You're making things up as usual.

 

And according to PFF Morse and Nsekhe are both "above average".

 

Wrong again.

[bcw]

Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency.

 

Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney.

 

Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll.

 

And they were signed to short deals.

 

If they don't work out we move on. If the competition brings out the best in them it's a win for us.

 

There are solid olines throughout the nfl made up of middle round draft picks. Hopefully a few of ours will pan out.

[StraightJ]

With what money?

 

They knew last year would be a rebuild. It was rough but this wasn't a playoff team regardless.

 

You dont need to be the New York Yankees to field an OL that is at least NFL caliber, even if below average. That OL was an embarrassment. It's your right to be fine with that, but it's the rest of ours to not be.

[StraightJ]

While I'm at it, I'll take some heat off of Lit. After TT went to the Browns, I said that team would likely beat us if we played head to head. I was ahead of the curve, when it ws less obvious how superior they would become.

[bcw]

You dont need to be the New York Yankees to field an OL that is at least NFL caliber, even if below average. That OL was an embarrassment. It's your right to be fine with that, but it's the rest of ours to not be.

 

Of course I'm not fine with putting a shit quality line out there last year but they sucked it up and totally revamped it.

 

Groy fell on his face. The Bills signed a legitimate starting C fa.

 

Miller and Vlad sucked. The Bills invest a 2nd round pick and multiple veteran fa guards. May the best man win.

 

Dawkins is a cheap starting LT. Give him another shot.

 

At RT 2 fa's brought in....can they be worse than Mills?

 

It's Draft Week. It's time to think to the future, not the past. I like the line they are putting together.

[LiterateStylish]

Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency.

 

Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney.

 

Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll.

 

So in other words, backups and average linemen...

[junglesouljah]

So in other words, backups and average linemen...

 

LOL at Mitch Morse and Ty Nsekhe being average. Morse is the real deal a tough, physical Center that has the athletism to pull and play in space. Nsekhe never got a chance to start because of Trent Williams and Morgan Moses and dominated Jadeveon Clowney when he played for an injured Williams.

 

You are smoking some good crack if you actually believe what you are saying.

[LiterateStylish]

LOL at Mitch Morse and Ty Nsekhe being average. Morse is the real deal a tough, physical Center that has the athletism to pull and play in space. Nsekhe never got a chance to start because of Trent Williams and Morgan Moses and dominated Jadeveon Clowney when he played for an injured Williams.

 

You are smoking some good crack if you actually believe what you are saying.

 

Morse IS good.

 

I’ve told you probably 10+ times.

 

He’s also 1 hit away from his career being done.

[Philly'sFinest]

Oh, look.

 

The Bills debbie downer found a 2nd team to dickride.

 

I only wish you'd do us all a favor and reside on their boards instead of a Bills board

[SackMan518]

The Browns look good on paper only and still have to go out and win the games while gelling as a team. We've seen this assembling of all-star talent before most notably when Snyder took over the Redskins which just goes to show that without working as a unit and with the right coaching a team can go nowhere.