LiterateStylish Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 And more specifically John Dorsey. I said 3 years ago (and some of you laughed), that Dorsey is an AMAZING general manager. The best in the league. In 18 months, he took a Browns team that couldn’t win a SINGLE GAME and have turned them into a team that will probably win 12+ games. In 12 months, he assembled a top 10 QB, top 3 WR, top 10 WR, top 5 RB, top 10 rb, top 10 TE, top 5 CB, and now just drafted the best DB in the draft in the 2nd round. Dorsey came into Cleveland and said “process? Pffft. 3 year rebuild? Pfft. Give me 1 year and I’ll fix this shit”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglesouljah Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite. Beane has done a phenomenal job rebuilding Buffalo's offense. Quote L*t is a loser My adapt a Bill is Brandon Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolsBillsMagic Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Mayfield is not a top 10 qb yet. Quit trying to defend your love of the Browns because they gave Tyrod a shot and failed miserably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite. I was about to say the same exact thing. The Bills just added two linemen that most mocks had gone before our picks. Sure, other teams will land good players too but I'm a Bills fan and I'm thrilled about the pieces we have added the past 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B LO Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 And more specifically John Dorsey. I said 3 years ago (and some of you laughed), that Dorsey is an AMAZING general manager. The best in the league. In 18 months, he took a Browns team that couldn’t win a SINGLE GAME and have turned them into a team that will probably win 12+ games. In 12 months, he assembled a top 10 QB, top 3 WR, top 10 WR, top 5 RB, top 10 rb, top 10 TE, top 5 CB, and now just drafted the best DB in the draft in the 2nd round. Dorsey came into Cleveland and said “process? Pffft. 3 year rebuild? Pfft. Give me 1 year and I’ll fix this shit”. So what... You say a lot of things. He inherited a team that already had: TWO CONSECUTIVE #1overall picks. #4 overall pick Crazy cap space Almost any GM could do what he's done. But they wouldn't trade a high pick for a Tyrod. I will continue to laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Beane has done a phenomenal job rebuilding Buffalo's offense. I feel safe enough saying this to you, because we're cool(I think?), but in Lit's defense, Beane one hell of a job destroying the offense first. The line in particular. We should be grateful Josh Allen and Shady are still healthy. Quote Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971. https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :) Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup. (I doubt that explanation is wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I feel safe enough saying this to you, because we're cool(I think?), but in Lit's defense, Beane one hell of a job destroying the offense first. The line in particular. We should be grateful Josh Allen and Shady are still healthy. Beane didn't destroy the o-line. Wood got hurt and Incognito went off the deep end. You can't blame Beane for that. Maybe you can make a case for Glenn but he was expensive, underperformed last year and Beane was stockpiling every pick he could get to land Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 They look good but I'll believe 12 wins when I see it. I see it just as likely things get rocky and all those egos start to turn on each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beef Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Both teams have done extremely well the last 2 years. However, Baker was/is light years ahead of Allen (and I've really come along on Allen). Baltimore hit on their home run trade OBJ, we did not. I'll say this, with the addition of Oliver and if a mini-miracle in Ansah happens, our defense might be extra nasty. Beane was judicious like he said, however I feel our offense still needs that one true game breaker/mismatch. We don't have that yet. We have a plethora of niche guys at WR who should work as a hole, and an old but feasible RB by committe. This team has upgraded significantly, however it is heavily reliant on Allen making a big jump this year. Quote Captain of the Bills Family First Adoption Team. Steve Johnson is my Adopted BFF Team Member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Meanwhile...Beane completely revamps the offensive line and adds weapons on offense and all you do is bitch? Damn you’re a fucking hypocrite. Where did I bitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Both teams have done extremely well the last 2 years. However, Baker was/is light years ahead of Allen (and I've really come along on Allen). Baltimore hit on their home run trade OBJ, we did not. I'll say this, with the addition of Oliver and if a mini-miracle in Ansah happens, our defense might be extra nasty. Beane was judicious like he said, however I feel our offense still needs that one true game breaker/mismatch. We don't have that yet. We have a plethora of niche guys at WR who should work as a hole, and an old but feasible RB by committe. This team has upgraded significantly, however it is heavily reliant on Allen making a big jump this year. I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman. We signed backups and super average o-linemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Beane didn't destroy the o-line. Wood got hurt and Incognito went off the deep end. You can't blame Beane for that. Maybe you can make a case for Glenn but he was expensive, underperformed last year and Beane was stockpiling every pick he could get to land Josh Allen. My issue, which others have also amply noted, is that Beane had time to fix those things. They didnt happen a week before the season. That line was not NFL caliber, and I dont blame Shady for making tweets about Alabama having a better line. Quote Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971. https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :) Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup. (I doubt that explanation is wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 My issue, which others have also amply noted, is that Beane had time to fix those things. They didnt happen a week before the season. That line was not NFL caliber, and I dont blame Shady for making tweets about Alabama having a better line. With what money? They knew last year would be a rebuild. It was rough but this wasn't a playoff team regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglesouljah Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman. We signed backups and super average o-linemen. Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency. Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney. Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll. Quote L*t is a loser My adapt a Bill is Brandon Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B LO Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I love how fans act like we signed all-pro lineman. We signed backups and super average o-linemen. Nobody said all-pro. You're making things up as usual. And according to PFF Morse and Nsekhe are both "above average". Wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency. Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney. Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll. And they were signed to short deals. If they don't work out we move on. If the competition brings out the best in them it's a win for us. There are solid olines throughout the nfl made up of middle round draft picks. Hopefully a few of ours will pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 With what money? They knew last year would be a rebuild. It was rough but this wasn't a playoff team regardless. You dont need to be the New York Yankees to field an OL that is at least NFL caliber, even if below average. That OL was an embarrassment. It's your right to be fine with that, but it's the rest of ours to not be. Quote Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971. https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :) Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup. (I doubt that explanation is wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightJ Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 While I'm at it, I'll take some heat off of Lit. After TT went to the Browns, I said that team would likely beat us if we played head to head. I was ahead of the curve, when it ws less obvious how superior they would become. Quote Andy did you hear about this one?-REM . "I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway". -Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971. https://nativeamericanchurches.org/ My Adopt A Bill is Stefon Diggs My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :) Being staff seemed unable to train an elite legend how to run, Cole Beasley is my backup. (I doubt that explanation is wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcw Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 You dont need to be the New York Yankees to field an OL that is at least NFL caliber, even if below average. That OL was an embarrassment. It's your right to be fine with that, but it's the rest of ours to not be. Of course I'm not fine with putting a shit quality line out there last year but they sucked it up and totally revamped it. Groy fell on his face. The Bills signed a legitimate starting C fa. Miller and Vlad sucked. The Bills invest a 2nd round pick and multiple veteran fa guards. May the best man win. Dawkins is a cheap starting LT. Give him another shot. At RT 2 fa's brought in....can they be worse than Mills? It's Draft Week. It's time to think to the future, not the past. I like the line they are putting together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 Mitch Morse is a very good Center, the best Center of free agency. Ty Nsekhe is at worst a exceptional swing OT, but can start at either LT or RT. When he was forced to play LT because of an injury to all pro/pro bowl LT Trent Williams he shut down all pro/pro bowl RDE Jadeveon Clowney. Yeah Beane has done a terrible job in free agency, eye roll. So in other words, backups and average linemen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglesouljah Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 So in other words, backups and average linemen... LOL at Mitch Morse and Ty Nsekhe being average. Morse is the real deal a tough, physical Center that has the athletism to pull and play in space. Nsekhe never got a chance to start because of Trent Williams and Morgan Moses and dominated Jadeveon Clowney when he played for an injured Williams. You are smoking some good crack if you actually believe what you are saying. Quote L*t is a loser My adapt a Bill is Brandon Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiterateStylish Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 LOL at Mitch Morse and Ty Nsekhe being average. Morse is the real deal a tough, physical Center that has the athletism to pull and play in space. Nsekhe never got a chance to start because of Trent Williams and Morgan Moses and dominated Jadeveon Clowney when he played for an injured Williams. You are smoking some good crack if you actually believe what you are saying. Morse IS good. I’ve told you probably 10+ times. He’s also 1 hit away from his career being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly'sFinest Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Oh, look. The Bills debbie downer found a 2nd team to dickride. I only wish you'd do us all a favor and reside on their boards instead of a Bills board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackMan518 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 The Browns look good on paper only and still have to go out and win the games while gelling as a team. We've seen this assembling of all-star talent before most notably when Snyder took over the Redskins which just goes to show that without working as a unit and with the right coaching a team can go nowhere. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Twitter: Zack518Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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