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Goats Josh Allen. Worst game of his career. All he had to do was not fuck up. Boy did he. I fucking love this guy but god damn that was terrible. He's becoming a turnover machine and that concerns me. McD. All the Bills needed was to not screw up. Life had beaten the jets for us. Yet we found a new an innovative way to lose. That's hard to pull off. McD needs to get on Josh's face and let him now he can't be playign like this Dorsey. No rythm, no flow. Offense looks like he calls plays at random out of a play sheet. There doesn't seem to be a plan. The shotgun run on 2nd 15 in overtime alone is worthy of being here. Pussy call Gabe Davis. No show Spencer Brown. Garbage. Pure garbage. They can fire him today for all I care. Rest of the OL. Josh was under pressure a lot. It wasn't just Brown. Special Teams. They sucked all preseason long and oooh what a shock, they sucked again. Balls Defense. I know they got gashed on the ground. But it was basically 2 plays. They were fine the rest of the game. They only allowed 16 points. 3 of which were courtesy of Allen{s fumble. 13 points means a win 90%+ of the time IMO. DL. They were in the backfield all day long. Honorable mention to Groot and Floyd. Cook looked decent Diggs. Looked great too. Bottom line. Another god awful loss. Every year we know we ar gonna see a game like this. Hoping they got it out of their system and there's no repeat later in the year. Jets defense is the best one we will face all year long so I guess that until we meet again we will not have to face one like that. Chiefs lost, so did the Bungles. Shit like this happens. At the end of the day its just one out of 17 games. If they get their act together there's no reason to believe we won't be in the thick of things come definition time. Nobody ever won a Super Bowl in September. Its how you play down the stretch

Pissed they didnt name him HC when Marrone left.

McDermott post game. The guys played hard and it was a learning experience. We need to cut back on the penalties, and the offensive line needs to protect Josh better. Stopping the run will be an emphasis this short week of practice. I need to do a better job, and our coaches must put the guys in a better position to win.

How about pound the rock for a change? I loved seeing Murray plow through for that TD. Hes huuuge! Finally some decent options at RB.

Look at the trash he has drafted lately: 1st Rd Dalton Kincaid. Rookie TE who might only have 55 catches. Bust. 2nd Rd O'Cyrus Torrence starting as a rookie. What a dud. 3rd Rd Terrel Bernard. Fans want him put on the practice squad and to start Kirksey. 1st Rd Greg Rousseau. Only 8 sacks last year, and only got 1 sack against the Commanders. Trade em. 2nd Rd AJ Epenesa. Kid has only had one pick 6 in his career. And had just 1 sack against the Commanders 2nd Rd James Cook. Only averaging 6.1 yards a carry this year. Maybe we should trade him. 3rd Rd Dorain Williams. Rookie that couldn't beat out Matt Milano. Wasted pick. 3rd Rd Spencer Brown. Played well against stout Washington, and held Maxx Crosby out for a whole game, but he stinks. 5th Rd Khalil Shakir. Super slug, hardly gets any touchdowns. 6th Rd Christian Benford. Starting Corner in the NFL, but has never made the Pro Bowl. 4th Rd Gabe Davis. Cmon, guy sucks right? 5th Rd Tyler Bass. Sure he hit 4 for 4 field goals, and 3 for 3 on PAT this weekend, but look how he cuts his hair 7th Rd Dane Jackson. Yeah he is a 7th rounder, but he is only a backup Corner in the NFL. Terrible pick. Did I get this right?

None of us are perfect including myself. But for someone who goes around telling people to kill themselves has no morale high ground. Suicide is a serious issue and telling someone to commit this act is on the same level as calling someone the n word. Neither should happen but you continue to tell people to kill themselves. SMH

Lit doesn't take food stamps

You should get a job writing for a greeting card company.

If you hit on 3 out your 7 draft picks, that is a successful draft. And it doesn't matter which 3. If you go back and look at the draft picks in the Jim Kelly era, the Bills usually only hit on 2 picks a year. I am really encouraged by the picks Dalton Kincaid and O'Cyrus Torrence. If we can get 2 more instant starters in next year's draft, I would be delighted. Maybe a WR and a Safety.

Frazier is available. They already have Edmunds soooooooooo.

This thread title really should be @seandelevan hates the Bills.

What's the problem? Last year almost every one picked the bill to win the superbowl and we disappointed. So why would they billieve? I'm OK with them crapping on the bills since we play better as the underdog anyway

I will say the same thing I said last year. If all you guys that keep with the sports entertainment shit really believe it and you're entitled to believe it maybe it is true why the fuck are you on this board? Go make a board of sports entertainment and circle jerk each other and leave the people that care to watch the games and not believe it alone.

1. Was miffed Pegulas hired a defensive coordinator when the league was heading towards offensive play. 2. Was pleasantly surprised they drafted a qb 3. Was miffed again when they proceeded to draft a shit ton of defenders 4. Was fucking pissed that a year after having a shit offense and a year after watching Allen throwing to scrubs the Bills proceeded to draft MORE FUCKING DEFENSE and ignore the receiver position in a year that was deep in WR talent. 5. was pleasantly surprised they traded for Diggs…but then went heavy on defense. 6. Was fucking raging when drafted 2 defensive ends in rounds 1 and 2! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 7. AND DOUBLED DOWN AND SIGNED AN OVER THE HILL VON MILLER! 8. draft a DB in the first round …passing over Breece Hall! AND THAT DB IS A HEALTHY SCRATCH! this team and roster was poorly built…I’m sorry…it is. And I’ve been saying so since day one.

This is mostly a coaching issue. A McD issue. He coaches scared and not to lose.

I believe the game plan changed into conservative dont lose mode when Rodgers went down. I think Mcdermott thought we cant possibly lose this game to Wilson. That's what happens when you coach scared. The not going for it on 4th and 1 is a sign of that. The OT 2nd and 15 run play. If Rodgers plays I think it forces them into a different game call.

there is not one problem. there are a host of problems. . Every single person listed on this thread is part of it. Allen Mcdermott Dorsey Beane. and sorry Daryls, please stop with the offseason of Sean. This team did nothing in the offseason they should have. Lateral moves. McKenzie - Hardy, Beasley - Sherfeld, Crap offensive line to a crap offensive line especially the disaster that is Spencer Brown. Dorsey still here with head scratching calls at the worst times, McDermott still here being ultra conservative. Josh still not smart. Beane still wasting resources on defense instead of acquiring upgrades at oline and getting Diggs a running mate.

If Josh Allen is playing. Its open

Literally the M.O. of the entire Demopedogroomer Party. They lie, they know they lie, and they don't fucking care because you're all too fucking retarded to stop believing them in their BlueAnon.

TRUMP SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK AND IMPEACHED FOR A THIRD TIME!!!1!

Or whoever isn't their type of left. Being pro peace makes you a nazi. Being pro family makes you sexist and homophobe. Being anti imperialist makes you a racist. Being against wall street makes you a fascist. Being against the corporate state controlled press makes you a disinformation agent. Recognizing that there are only two genders, that men cannot give birth, opposing the mutilation of healthy children, and opposing men using women's bathrooms, women's locker rooms, serving time women's prisons, and playing women's sports makes you transphobic. Frankly, I just laugh anymore. If you point out how right wing authoritarian the Dems are and you only vote actual leftists you get to be called MAGA. What can you do with people who are so disconnected from reality and who are so thoroughly indoctrinated?

How is this a call thread? This is the most helpful thread I’ve seen in this section in a long time. It’s a lot better then talking about mythical genders and bogeyman fascists. Helping a member that seems completely incapable of finding useful employment a job is a public service. One that all of us need to get behind. You as a member of hard working America should know the importance of everyone carrying there share. America is like an engine, it runs at peek performance when all the small parts do there job. The IC cylinder has never fired. That makes all of us other parts have to work that much harder to keep the engine running. We can continue to ignore the problem until it becomes a major problem or we can fix it now and get America running at the peek performance it was designed to. Great thread, Gibby. This is a “call to duty” thread. Come on, Range! Do your civic duty and help find IC a job.

ICR's existence IS his punishment. You're merely watching him flail in his misery.

Leave it to a Bills fan to get injured in the new stadium before the new stadium is built.

The TKO Spikes thing we deserve. Did you guys see the seats they gave him? Complete BS. Tim Graham twitted that this is not a one time occurrence. They even had Marv, all 91 years old of him sitting in General. All the others are hot garbage

That’s good because he doesn’t pay anybody rent. If his mother gets any money for him to live in her basement… the government pays it.

Prove it or stfu

Someone mentioned on one of the many shows that perhaps Dorsey should not be in the booth. That he should be downstairs with Josh so he can talk to him straight up. Have Brady in the booth. Honestly, it sounds like a good idea. Can't hurt to try. Because McDermott doesn't have the time apparently or the sway to talk Josh out of going rogue.

Oh yeah everyone all bills fans know this and are pissed off....except for the very few who are satisfied with a "good regular seasoning winning record"...which mean squat when you get your ass embarresed in playoff games 2 years running now....

Of course, the dumbest most useless fuck here chimes in with his dumbassery without even noticing what’s in the videos and brings it all back to Trump like the obsessed retard that he is.

In the playoff game……looks like the same team. they look fucking cooked maybe there needs to be a new voice in the locker room…I dunno. They look fucking done.

Best defensive coordinator in the league, and McBeane doesn't even try bringing him back to Buffalo. Yeah, he was in Buffalo already, and treated pretty poorly (Wreck Ryan). All the more reason to talk to him, bring him back and make things right. IMO, should have tried. To be honest, not sure if the hiring of assistant coaches is all that important to McDermott or Beane.

The D was fine but couldn't handle the Jets MVP, Josh Allen.

Literally no one in the USA gives a flying crap about international basketball. This isn’t the 1992 Dream Team.

Stupid cunt. Shivanthi Sathanandan, a vice chair of the Minnesota DFL Party and a vocal advocate for defunding the police, has found herself on the receiving end of the crime she once believed could be solved through social programs. Sathanandan, who is of Indian and Sri Lankan descent, was violently carjacked and assaulted in her own driveway in broad daylight, as her young children looked on in horror. Sathanandan, who is now calling for tougher penalties for juvenile offenders, thanked the police officers who responded to her emergency. In a detailed Facebook post that included a graphic image of her face after the incident, Sathanandan wrote, “You could have been reading the obituary for me and my children today. But instead, I’m here. To write this. Look at my face. These criminals will not win. We need to take back our city. And this will not be the last you hear from me about this.” The deeply unsettling event occurred at the Minneapolis home of Sathanandan and involved four young men, all armed. Sathanandan suffered a broken leg, lacerations on her head, and extensive bruising. Her children and neighbors were threatened at gunpoint during the incident. Read her story below: Yesterday my children and I were violently car jacked in the driveway of our home in Minneapolis. Four very young men, all carrying guns, beat me violently down to the ground in front of our kids. The young men held our neighbors up at gunpoint when they ran over and tried to help me. All in broad daylight. Look at my face in the picture. This is the face of a mother who just had the sh$t beaten out of her. A mother whose only thought was, “let me run far enough and fight hard enough so that my kids have a chance to get away.” This is the face of a mother who just listened to her four year old daughter screaming non-stop, her 7 year old son wailing for someone to come help because bad guys are murdering his Mama in the back yard, her neighbors screaming in outrage… all while being beaten with guns and kicks and fists. I have a broken leg, deep lacerations on my head, bruising and cuts all over my body. And I have rage. These men knew what they were doing. I have NO DOUBT they have done this before. Yet they are still on OUR STREETS. Killing mothers. Giving babies psychological trauma that a lifetime of therapy cannot erase. With no hesitation and no remorse. I’m now part of the statistics. I wasn’t silent when I fought these men to save my life and my babies, and I won’t be silent now. We need to get illegal guns off of our streets, catch these young people who are running wild creating chaos across our city and HOLD THEM IN CUSTODY AND PROSECUTE THEM. PERIOD. Look at my face. REMEMBER ME when you are thinking about supporting letting juveniles and young people out of custody to roam our streets instead of HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. You could have been reading the obituary for me and my children today. But instead I’m here. To write this. Look at my face. These criminals will not win. We need to take back our city. And this will not be the last you hear from me about this. The hypocrisy is not lost on those who remember her earlier stance. Sathanandan was a vocal supporter of dismantling the very police department she now praises for their support. Critics argue that her case serves as a potent example of the very real dangers of adopting radical policies without fully understanding their repercussions on public safety. In her June 2020 post, Sathanandan wrote, “We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department. Say it with me. DISMANTLE The Minneapolis Police Department” She added, “As allies, what can we do right now? LISTEN and LEARN from our Black siblings. And then AMPLIFY this message right now, in this moment. MPD has systematically failed the Black Community, they have failed ALL OF US. It’s time to build a new infrastructure that works for ALL communities. If you are still disagreeing with that BASIC FACT, I’m not sure what to say to you.” After the incident, Sathanandan thanked the Minneapolis 4th Precinct Officers, Mayor Frey, Chief O’Hara, Paramedics, neighbors, friends, and DFL family for their support, stating, “I’m so grateful for this community that wraps us in love. The Gateway Pundit has reached out to Sathanandan and requested a comment if she still stands by her previous calls to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department following her traumatic experience. According to Alpha News, “The Minneapolis Police Department confirmed that it received a report about the alleged carjacking.” LINK

I'm sorry, but do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or did your brain glitch out awaiting Bidiot and Blinken's next talking points?

Fuck the Chiefs.

All i know is how much I love watching KC lose

Seriously though, you cannot be this simple, obtuse, mentally inept or extremely mentally deficient!?🤔🤦‍♂️🤯🤤

30 Signs You Might Be An Empire Simp There are many bootlicking simps for the US empire. It’s not entirely their fault; the empire has the most sophisticated propaganda machine ever devised and most westerners have been marinating in its influence their entire lives. But it does happen, and it’s good to bring awareness to it. Here then are 30 signs you might be an empire simp: 1. You get triggered whenever anyone highlights the well-documented western provocations that paved the way to the war in Ukraine. 2. You think Putin invaded Ukraine solely because he is evil and hates freedom and the US is pouring weapons into the nation because it loves Ukrainians and wants to protect their freedom and democracy. 3. You’re more interested in Trump’s mugshot than the western-backed atrocities in Yemen or starvation sanctions in Syria. 4. You can listen to Tony Blinken talk without wanting to throw trash at his head. 5. You understand that the last time there was a credible foreign military threat near the US border the US responded so aggressively that it almost ended the world, yet you demand that Russia and China accept US military threats on their borders. 6. You think the US is filling Australia with war machinery because it loves Australians and wants to protect them from China. 7. You believe the world’s most destructive military force is encircling its #1 geopolitical rival with war machinery as a defensive measure. 8. You live in the most propagandized population on earth and make jokes about North Korean propaganda. 9. You live in the most propagandized population on earth and spend your time fretting about Russian propaganda. 10. You think the title of most murderous and tyrannical regime on earth belongs to any government besides Washington. 11. You live under the most murderous and tyrannical power structure on earth and yet spend your time shrieking about tyranny in Asian countries. 12. You want to see Vladimir Putin tried for war crimes before George W Bush. 13. You believe western interventionism has ever had anything to do with spreading freedom and democracy or protecting humanitarian interests. 14. You find protests in places like Iran, Venezuela or Cuba much more interesting than protests in places like France, Haiti or Chile. 15. You unironically call NATO a “defensive alliance”. 16. You rend your garments about China preparing to seize control of Taiwan by military force without ever acknowledging that the US empire is preparing to do the exact same thing. 17. You’ve ever believed for even one second that the US government gives a fuck about Muslims in China. 18. You oppose guns except when they’re being used to kill foreigners overseas. 19. You claim you oppose the misdeeds of all governments equally but find yourself spending most of your time yelling at people who criticize US foreign policy online. 20. You’ve ever accused anyone who criticizes US foreign policy of secretly working for Russia or China. 21. You’ve ever accused someone who criticizes Israel of being an anti-semite. 22. You think being anti-war means putting a Ukraine flag in your Twitter bio. 23. You think “the troops” have ever fought for your freedom at any time since you’ve been alive. 24. You think the invasion of Iraq had anything to do with liberating the Iraqi people. 25. You think the destruction of Libya had anything to do with protecting Libyans. 26. You think the west arming Al Qaeda in Syria had anything to do with advancing the interests of Syrians. 27. You think US escalations against Russia and China have anything to do with “national security”. 28. You think the Department of Defense has anything to do with defense. 29. You think it’s okay for the US to keep waging wars, destroying nations, starving civilian populations with economic sanctions, instigating proxy wars, arming neo-Nazis and violent jihadists, staging coups and persecuting journalists, because if it doesn’t do those things the world might be taken over by evil tyrants. 30. You were bothered by any item on this list.

I can tell that Orban knows what's going on and tell it the way it is and especially scuttles the propaganda Ukraine stuff. I just have the snippets of the ones I like. Carlson: So, in the United States, the view is that Ukraine is winning this war. Doesn't sound like that's true? Orbán: It's a lie. It's not a misunderstanding. It's a lie. It's impossible. Everybody who is in politics and understand the logic, the figures, the data - no way. Carlson: Why's it impossible? Orbán: Ukrainians die everyday, hundreds of thousands - my heart is with them. It's tragedy. It's tragedy for Ukraine. They run out earlier of the soldiers than the Russians. What finally will count is boots on the ground. And the Russians are far stronger. More numbers. Carlson: Many more. --- Carlson: I have to ask you about Nordstream. It seems very obvious that the Biden administration blew up Nordstream, either directly or through proxies. I haven't heard anyone dispute that, really. How is Western Europe, Germany in particular (the biggest NATO member in Europe), not say anything about this? It just crushed the German economy. Why don't they say a word about it? Orbán: When it is happened, we recommended it as a terrorist attack. It was rejected in Germany and the West. It was not a terrorist attack, it was... SOMETHING [both laugh]. It's kind of evidence of lack of sovereignty. But it's the job of the Germans, I would not like to criticise them. What we Hungarians did immediately, we made clear there is another pipeline, not just Nordic stream but a Southern stream, coming from Russia through the Southern corridor - Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary - and, together with the Serbian Prime Minister, err, President, we made it clear that if anybody would like to do the same with the Southern corridor as was done with the Northern one, we consider it as a reason for war, a terrorist attack, we will immediately react. So don't do that. Probably you can do it to the Germans, but you can't with this region. --- Carlson: No, it was not... So if you were in charge of NATO, or say [if you were] Joe Biden, what would your next move be in the war in Ukraine? What would you do? Orbán: Peace - immediately. Call back Trump. That's the only way out. Carlson: Call back Trump? Orbán: Call back Trump. because, you know... you can criticise him for many reasons, I understand all the discussions... but the best foreign policies, for several recent decades, belonged to him. He did not initiate any new war. He treated, nicely, the North Koreans and Russia, even the Chinese. He delivered the policy which was the best one, [inaudible], you know the Abraham Accords, so that was a very good foreign policy. he's criticised that he's not educated enough to understand the world, but this is not the case. Facts count, and his foreign policy was the best one for the world. In the last several decades I hace seen. And if he would have been the President, at the moment of the Russian invasion, at the start, it would not have been possible to do that by the Russians. So Trump is the man who can save the Western world, probably the human beings in the world as well. That's my personal conviction. --- Carlson: So back to the peace. If you were in charge, or if Trump were to win in 2024, how would you approach that, what would it look like, the settlement? Orbán: First you should admit, probably, publicly acknowledging, that the keys in your hand. If the United States would like to have peace, the next morning there is peace, because it obvious that the poor Ukrainians are not competitive in this war. If there is no money, and no equipment from the West, especially the United States, the war is over. Carlson: Yes. Orbán: The solution is in your hands, in the hands of your President. The President or the future one. You will solve it. The United States can do it. Nobody else can. It's not the solution for the Ukrainians. Of course it's about the Ukrainians, they must be involved... but the real factor is not Ukraine but the intention of the United States. --- Carlson: Do you think that's why you are so unpopular among leadership in the United States and the West? Orbán: I'm not the favourite politician of the liberals, unfortuantely, but nobody's perfect, you know. [they share the laugh] Carlson: Why do you think that is? [Orbán sighs deeply] Carlson continues: The country is thriving, that's usually the measure we use. Orbán: It's more about our civilisation, I mean the Western Christian civilisation. Now, the main division line is not according to ideologies. It's deeper. It has an anthropological character. So, on one side, in Europe and probably in your country, but in Europe definitely, there are groups of people who think that the most important thing in the world is their ego - themselves, me, this is the centre of the world. The other camp of the people, the other part of society, thinks that's not true because there are certain things which are more important than me and my ego - family, nation, God. And because they are more important than me, I have to serve these higher level things. This society has a majority here in Hungary. And the other society, which is concentrating only on me, only dealing with myself, it's more Westernised, dominating factor of political life. And the governments of the West, more belonging to the first group of people. I belong to the second one, and Hungary belongs to the second one. Our Constitution is concentrating on the We, how we are linked together - family, nation, God, what is common. We the Hungarian nation, that's how we speak on that. It's totally out of fashion in the Western European society. --- Carlson: Of course. Orbán: And hopefully Trump will come back, so the Republicans will come back, and the relationship will again be very good. But now it's absurd. Can you imagine, the United States deleted the agreement between Hungary and the United States on double taxation, but they still have the agreement between Russia and the United States. Carlson: That means that American citizens, for those who don't know what this is, American citizens who live and work in Hungary, pay Hungarian taxes to your government, but also full federal taxes to the United States. Orbán: But the attitude, as such, we are a member of NATO, we are ally to the United States, and we are worse treated than the Russians. What's that about? Carlson: What is it about? It's what you just said. It might be helpful to say it out loud. The Biden administration spent U.S. tax dollars to campaign against you in in your last election. They didn't succeed, you won, in a fair election. Orbán: Big money. Carlson: Big money... I don't think most Americans understand where their tax dollars went, to [try] defeat you in Hungary. Orbán: Exactly. Carlson: But if you respect democracy, don't you let countries govern themselves? Orbán: It's definitely against all the principles, we confess. --- Carlson: Let me ask you one last question about Trump since you brought him up a couple of times. You were just in an election that I know your staff were worried you might lose. There was an open question. You won, pretty sizeably. But it was a real election. Did you consider, at any point, just indicting your challenger on fake documents and charges, and trying to throw him in jail. Wouldn't that have been easier? Orbán: You mean against me? Carlson: Yeah. Orbán: Okay, we have some bad chapters of our history, but that kind of civilian war, cold civilian war, was not part of our culture. So we can beat each other, argue against each other, but to do what's going on now in, in some countries and even your country, to use the justice system against political opponents, in Hungary, I think it's impossible to imagine. You know, that was done by the Communists. It's a very Communist methology to do that. So, in Hungary, we are all aware that we disagree on things - ideology, values, vision of the future, even practices of politics - but we belong to the same nation. We have rivalry but what is the final sense of this argument and competition? To unite the nation, yeah? To provide a better future. I can't say that I will kill you or send you to the prison. If you follow that track, no chance to unify the nation. If the nation's not unified, you can't run for big purposes. So competition is okay but it must be fair, legally perfect, otherwise you can sacrifice your country, and the future of your country, for your personal success, which is not acceptable, at least it's not in Hungary.

Diggs already said these reports are BS. I think I will believe Diggs as to what he wants as opposed to some media nobody who doesn't know him.