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About 80 looters in ski masks ransacked a Nordstrom location outside of San Francisco in a scene described by witnesses as "insane" and like something "out of a movie."  

"We probably saw 50 to 80 people in ski masks crowbars a bunch of weapons. They were looting the Nordstrom's right here. And I thought they were going to start beating cars. I had to start locking doors lock the front door lock the back door," local PF Chang's manager Brett Barrette told KGO.

"There was a mob of people, the police were flying in. It was like a scene out of a movie. It was insane."

The incident unfolded before 9 p.m. on Saturday evening in Walnut Creek, which is about 25 miles outside San Francisco. A local reporter tweeted footage of the scene and said about 25 cars pulled up outside of the Nordstrom before running in, grabbing merchandise and fleeing. 

Hibbs added that two people in a car were stopped and arrested, a male and a female. The male was charged with robbery, possession of stolen property, conspiracy to commit burglary and possession of burglary tools. The woman was arrested for unlawful possession of a firearm.

 

 

Yes, by all means, defund the police. 

 

California Nordstrom ransacked by 80 looters in ski masks with crowbars and weapons: Witness | Fox News


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This is what they want.

A country where you are not safe, and where chaos rules.

They excused it during Nancy Pelosis "summer of love" when they said it was ok for people of color to burn, loot, and murder because of systemic racism.

It's all been done due to the left and the socialist POS resurrecting what was primarily extinct, and that was the racism in America idealog. 

These are tactics and psychological warfare...not real issues in America. It's only becoming that now because people are acting out due to the lies being bought by the very small percentage of idiots or people that see it as a way for themselves to personally benefit. 

They want civil war badly, and maybe they'll get their wish.

Only then will we all realize that we all lose, and that we should have never let the hate and division win.

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7 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

This is what they want.

A country where you are not safe, and where chaos rules.

They excused it during Nancy Pelosis "summer of love" when they said it was ok for people of color to burn, loot, and murder because of systemic racism.

It's all been done due to the left and the socialist POS resurrecting what was primarily extinct, and that was the racism in America idealog. 

These are tactics and psychological warfare...not real issues in America. It's only becoming that now because people are acting out due to the lies being bought by the very small percentage of idiots or people that see it as a way for themselves to personally benefit. 

They want civil war badly, and maybe they'll get their wish.

Only then will we all realize that we all lose, and that we should have never let the hate and division win.

In your opinion what can we do to improve society so that people don't feel the need to steal?

We tried doing 3 strike laws, mandatory minimums, harsher sentences, etc...

Hmmm....what could we possibly do? Most people steal because they have very little money....how could we solve this problem?

Let me think...No money and vast inequality leads to stealing. 

More tax breaks for the rich?? Hmmm tried that too.

Ughh.. I feel so close. If only there was something that we could do.

 

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23 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

In your opinion what can we do to improve society so that people don't feel the need to steal?

We tried doing 3 strike laws, mandatory minimums, harsher sentences, etc...

Hmmm....what could we possibly do? Most people steal because they have very little money....how could we solve this problem?

Let me think...No money and vast inequality leads to stealing. 

More tax breaks for the rich?? Hmmm tried that too.

Ughh.. I feel so close. If only there was something that we could do.

Maybe we could try the great society?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.

Maybe we could try social security?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.

Maybe we could institute a welfare program that would provide a stipend until people found employment?  It also could provide extra consideration for single parents.  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class and discouraged single parents from marrying and providing a stable home.   

We could open our borders to everyone and put them on social services?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.  It also created the need for government to subsidize immigrant work forces for businesses.  Seems those fat cats kept the extra profits.

Government can't solve these problems; it never could.  I know you see yourself as so much smarter than every progressive before you; you envision yourself implementing these programs flawlessly.

Those of us with less 'vision' shall stick to reality.    

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21 minutes ago, FanBack said:

Maybe we could try the great society?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.

Maybe we could try social security?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.

Maybe we could institute a welfare program that would provide a stipend until people found employment?  It also could provide extra consideration for single parents.  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class and discouraged single parents from marrying and providing a stable home.   

We could open our borders to everyone and put them on social services?  Oh wait, that created a dependent voter class.  It also created the need for government to subsidize immigrant work forces for businesses.  Seems those fat cats kept the extra profits.

Government can't solve these problems; it never could.  I know you see yourself as so much smarter than every progressive before you; you envision yourself implementing these programs flawlessly.

Those of us with less 'vision' shall stick to reality.    

I have an easier solution.


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23 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I have an easier solution.

Of course you do.  Hopefully it includes a six-figure stipend for the 6 Jan Federal Property Frolickers who were victimized by the unconscionable authoritarian actions of the federal officers.

I also have a solution (we all miss the big guy):

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Please explain yesterday's actions of your peaceful Antifa/BLM comrade, Darrell Brooks.  Was he motivated by your intolerable hate speech?

 

 

 

  

 

 

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9 minutes ago, FanBack said:

Of course you do.  Hopefully it includes a six-figure stipend for the 6 Jan Federal Property Frolickers who were victimized by the unconscionable authoritarian actions of the federal officers.

I also have a solution (we all miss the big guy):

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Please explain yesterday's actions of your peaceful Antifa/BLM comrade, Darrell Brooks.  Was he motivated by your intolerable hate speech?

Holy shit you are delusional.

 

But anyway back on topic..

Raise wages stupid.

Easy. Not hard.

When people have money they tend not to steal. Those that do are generally CEOs.

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14 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Holy shit you are delusional.

But anyway back on topic..

Raise wages stupid.

Easy. Not hard.

When people have money they tend not to steal. Those that do are generally CEOs.

You're lost. 

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2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

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Aah, Engels the true writer of The Communist Manifesto.   The treatise that gave us 100 million deaths in the 20th century. 

Now explain the actions of Darrell Brooks.  You must do so.  Now.

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1 minute ago, FanBack said:

Aah, Engels the true writer of The Communist Manifesto.   The treatise that gave us 100 million deaths in the 20th century. 

Now explain the actions of Darrell Brooks.  You must do so.  Now.

None win against FanBack.

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2 minutes ago, FanBack said:

Aah, Engels the true writer of The Communist Manifesto.   The treatise that gave us 100 million deaths in the 20th century. 

Now explain the actions of Darrell Brooks.  You must do so.  Now.

Tens of millions of people die every year due to poverty under global capitalism. 

 

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It will create a dependent voter class who must maintain their artificially raised standard of living via the ballot.  That is the best result. 

The worst result is that businesses will automate these jobs.   This causes unemployment. 

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3 minutes ago, FanBack said:

A government-mandated arbitrary raise of wages will not work.

That's true! 

Unions are a wonderful thing!


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Just now, f8ta1ity54 said:

Tens of millions of people die every year due to poverty under global capitalism. 

No, there is no global capitalism.   It's institutionalized socialism in mixed economies.   That's been proven 

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1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

That's true! 

Unions are a wonderful thing!

Unions are a construct of the market and can be either good or bad.  Free-charter Unions are a part of capitalism.  They can't exist in a Socialist environment.   See Air Traffic Controllers.

Ronald Reagan was our only Union President.  Ayn Rand was not against Unions. 

The Construction Unions provide training and organization that can benefit businesses as well as the workers.   The UAW - not so  great.. They never provided training to increase the value of their members   

As a Construction Project Manager, I found no advantage/disadvantage to Union subcontractors.  It was based upon each individual company.

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1 minute ago, FanBack said:

It will create a dependent voter class who must maintain their artificially raised standard of living via the ballot.  That is the best result. 

The worst result is that businesses will automate these jobs.   This causes unemployment. 

Business have been and will continue to automate regardless. Call centers, self checkouts, factory workers, and many more have already been lost to automation. This puts millions on unemployment and drives DOWN wages. What happens when truckers lose their jobs to smart vehicles? Nothing is going to stop technology from progressing. These jobs will be lost and people will have to change careers at 50 years old and work for low wages. It's going to happen no matter what. So what is being done about it?


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2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

That's true! 

Unions are a wonderful thing!

Unions can’t keep you from laying people off. If you raise wages employers are going to cut people to make up for loss. So now you have higher unemployment. Means more theft. McDonald’s has 20 people working for 14.00 an hour, you want them to pay 20.00 an hour, most likely they will cut that to 14 people and force the salaried managers to work more and pick up the slack, or they will cut hours of operation like they are already doing. Either way it’s less hours or unemployment.

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7 minutes ago, FanBack said:

No, there is no global capitalism.   It's institutionalized socialism in mixed economies.   That's been proven 

So you're saying that social programs like social security, that cut senior poverty by 90% are the problem?

Not the CEOs exploiting their workers til they die? 

Gotcha. 


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2 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

Unions can’t keep you from laying people off. If you raise wages employers are going to cut people to make up for loss. So now you have higher unemployment. Means more theft. McDonald’s has 20 people working for 14.00 an hour, you want them to pay 20.00 an hour, most likely they will cut that to 14 people and force the salaried managers to work more and pick up the slack, or they will cut hours of operation like they are already doing. Either way it’s less hours or unemployment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news10.com/news/john-deere-workers-end-strike-reach-deal/amp/

Unions, completely useless. 10% raise now. 5% raise in 2023 and 2025. $8k bonuses.

Damn. They should have just scrapped the union and settled for the peanuts that John Deere was offering. 

All while the union paid workers $275 a week while on strike. 


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19 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

So you're saying that social programs like social security, that cut senior poverty by 90% are the problem?

Not the CEOs exploiting their workers til they die? 

Gotcha. 

No.  You need to travel the world and educate yourself.  Authoritarian, progressive, centralized governments are the bane of man's existence.  

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26 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

Unions can’t keep you from laying people off. If you raise wages employers are going to cut people to make up for loss. So now you have higher unemployment. Means more theft. McDonald’s has 20 people working for 14.00 an hour, you want them to pay 20.00 an hour, most likely they will cut that to 14 people and force the salaried managers to work more and pick up the slack, or they will cut hours of operation like they are already doing. Either way it’s less hours or unemployment.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/09/denmark-mcdonalds-labor-unions-strikes-wages-benefits

Look at that...unions striking gets mcdonalds workers $22hr 6 weeks paid vacation and sick pay.


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2 minutes ago, FanBack said:

No.  You need to travel the world and educate yourself.  Authoritarian, progressive, centralized governments are the bane of man's existence.  

Which ones?


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26 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

Unions can’t keep you from laying people off. If you raise wages employers are going to cut people to make up for loss. So now you have higher unemployment. Means more theft. McDonald’s has 20 people working for 14.00 an hour, you want them to pay 20.00 an hour, most likely they will cut that to 14 people and force the salaried managers to work more and pick up the slack, or they will cut hours of operation like they are already doing. Either way it’s less hours or unemployment.

Brilliant post.  Businesses will do what businesses will do - regardless of what a clueless progressive wants.  Long term successful business will treat skilled people fairly - they have to in order  to survive.   Only government regulation can prevent this - mistakenly called 'crony capitalism', it is anything but.

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