SackMan518 5,534 Posted January 28 I've already reported on NYS lying about the nursing home deaths by using classification tricks but this looks REAL bad for Cuomo when your own handpicked, anti-Trump AG is confirming what has already leaked out there. NY undercounted nursing home deaths by thousands, AG says ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York may have undercounted COVID-19 deaths among nursing home residents by thousands, the state attorney general charged in a report Thursday that dealt a blow to Gov. Andrew Cuomo's oft-repeated claims that his state is doing better than others in protecting its most vulnerable. The 76-page report found an undercount of more than 50%, backing up the findings of an Associated Press investigation last year that focused on the fact that New York is one of the only states in the nation that count residents who died on nursing home property and not those who later died in hospitals. Such an undercount would mean the state's current official tally of 8,711 nursing home deaths to the virus is actually more than 13,000, boosting New York from No. 6 to highest in the nation. “While we cannot bring back the individuals we lost to this crisis, this report seeks to offer transparency that the public deserves,” Attorney General Letitia James said in a statement. The report from a fellow Democratic official undercut Cuomo's frequent argument that the criticism of his handling of the virus in nursing homes was part of a political “blame game," and it was a vindication for thousands of families who believed their loved ones were being omitted from counts to advance the governor's image as a pandemic hero. “It’s important to me that my mom was counted,” said Vivian Zayas, whose 78-year-old mother died in April after contracting COVID-19 at a nursing home in West Islip, New York. “Families like mine knew these numbers were not correct.” Cuomo’s office and the state health department have not responded to repeated requests for comment. James has for months been examining discrepancies between the number of deaths being reported by the state's Department of Health, and the number of deaths reported by the homes themselves. Her investigators looked at a sample of 62 of the state’s roughly 600 nursing homes. They reported 1,914 deaths of residents from COVID-19, while the state Department of Health logged only 1,229 deaths at those same facilities. One unnamed facility, for example, had an official death toll of 11 but the attorney general's probe found that 40 had actually died. AP's analysis in August concluded that the state could be understating deaths by as much as 65%, based on discrepancies between its totals and numbers being reported to federal regulators. That analysis was, like James’ report, based on only a slice of data, rather than a comprehensive look. To date, despite public records requests from the AP and repeated pleas from state and federal lawmakers, New York's health department has yet to produce the full number of nursing home residents who died in hospitals as well as the nursing home property. Health Commissioner Howard Zucker has said several times that the state is working on such data. State Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Democrat who has blasted the Cuomo administration for its incomplete death count, said he was “sadly unsurprised” by the report. “Families who lost loved ones deserve honest answers,” Rivera said. “For their sake, I hope that this report will help us unveil the truth and put policies in place to prevent such tragedies in the future.” Cuomo, who last fall released a book touting his leadership in dealing with the virus, has not been shy about using New York's lower nursing home death count to make the argument that his state is doing better than others in caring for those in such facilities. “There's also no doubt that we’re in this hyper-political environment so everybody wants to point fingers,” Cuomo told CBS “This Morning” in October. “New York, actually, we’re number 46 out of 50 in terms of percentage of deaths in nursing homes — 46 out of 50. So, yes, people died in nursing homes. ... but 46 out of 50, it’s not a predominantly New York problem.” The attorney general’s report also took aim at New York's controversial March 25 policy that sought to create more space in hospitals by releasing recovering COVID-19 patients into nursing homes, which critics contended was a driving factor in causing nursing home outbreaks. James’ report said those admissions “may have contributed to increased risk of nursing home resident infection and subsequent fatalities,” noting that at least 4,000 nursing home residents with COVID-19 died after that guidance. But James’ report said the issue would require further study to conclusively prove such a link. New York’s health department released a much-criticized report last summer that claimed the March 25 policy, which was reversed in May, was “not a significant factor” in deaths. James’ review also found that a lack of infection controls at nursing homes put residents at increased risk of harm, that homes with lower federal scores for staffing had higher fatality rates, and that a broad measure Cuomo signed in April shielding nursing homes and other health care providers from lawsuits may have actually encouraged homes to hold back on hiring and training. “As the pandemic and our investigations continue," she wrote, “it is imperative that we understand why the residents of nursing homes in New York unnecessarily suffered at such an alarming rate.” Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woody 15,799 Posted January 28 Cuomo will blame it on the incompetent government. 1 Quote seandelevan said: Fuck this team StraightJ said: I'll tie a frying pan to my ass so you hurt your penis, you ****ing homo! BertSquirtgum said: Shut the fuck up dark cloud pussy Mainejays said: Anyone who is foolish enough to not be a Buffalo Bills fan can go f*ck themselves with a wooden shovel handle. 212frawk said: also, all that shit in your signature is beyond annoying. just like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 28 What chapter of his book was this in? Did he at least think the victims in his Emmy acceptance speech? 2 2 Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SackMan518 5,534 Posted January 28 8 minutes ago, Nuke said: What chapter of his book was this in? Did he at least think the victims in his Emmy acceptance speech? He deserved EVERY bit of that Emmy because... well... he was acting! Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 28 https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/politics/andrew-cuomo-covid-19-new-york/index.html Ladies and Gentlemen, CNN. I repeat CNN Quote Andrew Cuomo's Covid-19 performance may have been less stellar than it seemed Quote Well, it turns out that all the hype obscured a troubling reality: That the New York State Department of Health was drastically undercounting deaths from Covid-19 among nursing home residents. That's at least according to a new report released by New York Attorney General Letitia James, who (like Cuomo) is a Democrat. Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 28 Cuomo’s own word, just yesterday Quote Incompetent government kills people Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted January 29 Andrew Cuomo is a liar and a very bad guy.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc856 9,796 Posted January 29 7 hours ago, Nuke said: Cuomo’s own word, just yesterday Self-awareness is not a strong suit of many political animals. Particularly, “Nostrils” McGee and his brother, Fredodo. 7 hours ago, Nuke said: Cuomo’s own word, just yesterday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DannyBoy 20,266 Posted January 29 I would have to believe New Jersey and Pennsylvania id the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted January 29 Just like Senile Joe Biden, Cuomo has blood on his hands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 29 Ssssshhhhh..... Do you here that? The huge commotion all over this news? Me neither. I found that little tidbit by CNN, yesterday. It’s already gone. A quick search of MSNBC and Bloomberg shows no mention of it at all. 24 hours later and it’s like it never happened. How long before Letitia James is on her ass? I mean that can’t fire her right away, can they? Too obvious, right. Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted January 29 29 minutes ago, Nuke said: Ssssshhhhh..... Do you here that? The huge commotion all over this news? Me neither. I found that little tidbit by CNN, yesterday. It’s already gone. A quick search of MSNBC and Bloomberg shows no mention of it at all. 24 hours later and it’s like it never happened. How long before Letitia James is on her ass? I mean that can’t fire her right away, can they? Too obvious, right. Shame on what we call the "news media" in this country. Better to call them partisan propaganda specialists/pushers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woody 15,799 Posted January 29 18 hours ago, SackMan518 said: He deserved EVERY bit of that Emmy because... well... he was acting! Damn right. Before I pulled back the onion on the guy I thought he was legit. His little daily COVID Conferences made him appear as if he had a firm grasp on everything. 1 Quote seandelevan said: Fuck this team StraightJ said: I'll tie a frying pan to my ass so you hurt your penis, you ****ing homo! BertSquirtgum said: Shut the fuck up dark cloud pussy Mainejays said: Anyone who is foolish enough to not be a Buffalo Bills fan can go f*ck themselves with a wooden shovel handle. 212frawk said: also, all that shit in your signature is beyond annoying. just like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FanBack 1,014 Posted January 29 Look, culling of our septuagenarians and our octogenarians is an important piece of nationalized healthcare. Andrew Cuomo was implementing a case study; if successful it will be implemented nationally. Expect the following: 1) Mock indignation from corrupt liberals for a short period. 2) A subsequent period of inquiry and investigation that results in the mainstream media voicing their 'concerns'. Eventually the media and federal government will clear Andrew Cuomo of any wrongdoing. 3) Implementation of service ads where elderly people are seen willfully checking into nursing homes. They will boast of freeing up resources for those younger, 'Their time is now, let them have it.' 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted January 29 Cuomo the killa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 30 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9203543/Republicans-call-gutless-Cuomo-RESIGN-blamed-TRUMP-COVID-nursing-home-deaths.html Quote Republicans demand 'gutless' Cuomo RESIGN after he blamed TRUMP for COVID nursing home deaths scandal and callously dismissed victims' plight by saying 'who cares where they died? Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SackMan518 5,534 Posted January 30 On 1/29/2021 at 11:25 AM, Nuke said: Ssssshhhhh..... Do you here that? The huge commotion all over this news? Me neither. I found that little tidbit by CNN, yesterday. It’s already gone. A quick search of MSNBC and Bloomberg shows no mention of it at all. 24 hours later and it’s like it never happened. How long before Letitia James is on her ass? I mean that can’t fire her right away, can they? Too obvious, right. AG James is still in the news but it's for examining Trump's taxes with an electron microscope hoping to find one "I" that wasn't dotted. Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted January 31 40 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: AG James is still in the news but it's for examining Trump's taxes with an electron microscope hoping to find one "I" that wasn't dotted. CNN will be all over that. That’s real 24/7 stuff. Not this run of the mill cover up stuff. 1 Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted February 12 Uh oh Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted February 12 Now here's a guy who really does belong behind bars..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted February 12 I wonder if he'll joke about it with his asshole younger brother on CNN. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SackMan518 5,534 Posted February 12 So let me get this straight... her excuse is that they were afraid of the Trump DoJ prosecuting them so they willingly lied about the death number and are now coming clean because Biden's in? That's like OJ hiding the knife for a year and then coming out later and saying this was the weapon I used but I didn't want to get arrested and go to jail. Either way, the same result from the justice system should occur. The strange thing is, why would you EVER admit it? Will they take back Cuomo's Emmy or ban his books from Amazon? We know the answer... Democrats get away with the most egregious crimes with no repercussions while Republicans get arrested and sentenced for jaywalking. 2 Quote Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!" “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” ~ Dresden James Parler @NYexile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuke 27,200 Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, SackMan518 said: Will they take back Cuomo's Emmy How things are going in the world today? He’ll probably get an Oscar. For best actor in a murder-mystery. 1 Quote Ed Oliver is my adopt-a-Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thebowflexbody 2,500 Posted February 13 2 hours ago, SackMan518 said: So let me get this straight... her excuse is that they were afraid of the Trump DoJ prosecuting them so they willingly lied about the death number and are now coming clean because Biden's in? That's like OJ hiding the knife for a year and then coming out later and saying this was the weapon I used but I didn't want to get arrested and go to jail. Either way, the same result from the justice system should occur. The strange thing is, why would you EVER admit it? Will they take back Cuomo's Emmy or ban his books from Amazon? We know the answer... Democrats get away with the most egregious crimes with no repercussions while Republicans get arrested and sentenced for jaywalking. Disgusting. The double standards are disgusting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jc856 9,796 Posted February 13 3 hours ago, SackMan518 said: So let me get this straight... her excuse is that they were afraid of the Trump DoJ prosecuting them so they willingly lied about the death number and are now coming clean because Biden's in? That's like OJ hiding the knife for a year and then coming out later and saying this was the weapon I used but I didn't want to get arrested and go to jail. Either way, the same result from the justice system should occur. The strange thing is, why would you EVER admit it? Will they take back Cuomo's Emmy or ban his books from Amazon? We know the answer... Democrats get away with the most egregious crimes with no repercussions while Republicans get arrested and sentenced for jaywalking. You mean.... you mean it might not be a coincidence that this was kept under wraps until Biden won? Hmmmm, let me ponder this........ 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites