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Simple enough. Give us your best reasoning as to why or why there was not fraud that affected the election.

I think the statistical analysis done in the article I'll link is about as conclusive as you can get that there's no way this was legitimate.

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/definitive-case-proves-donald-trump-won-election/

 

If Joe Biden taking the lead in Michigan and Wisconsin was the moment the dynamic of the Presidential race changed, this may be the moment the dynamic changes again.

A thorough and damning new analysis just published calls the legitimacy of this critical period into question and shows just how completely ridiculous and far-fetched the core of Joe Biden’s comeback really was in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia. It flags four individual vote dumps critical to Joe Biden’s “victory” in these states and shows, convincingly, that their ratios of Biden votes to Trump votes were profoundly anomalous when compared to other dumps in those states and virtually every other vote dump across the country.

The report is written in dry and academic language, filled with graphs, footnotes, and various hedges, but its implications could not be more obvious. Indeed, if the authors were less tepid, they might have fairly titled it:

Joe Biden’s Victory Was Not Legitimate. And Now We Can Prove it.

Because that’s exactly what the report does.  It looks at election data and shows what many would expect: the states and cities that had the most suspicious circumstances on election night and into the next day are precisely where the analysis flags extreme anomalies.

Summary and Background of the Report

It starts out with the background on Michigan and Wisconsin — the famous “vote spikes” that were plainly ridiculous and fundamentally changed both the electoral reality and the narrative. The report reminds us of the infamous vote spikes in Michigan and Wisconsin.  

Michigan

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Wisconsin: 

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The report is based on an analysis of the difference between successive updates in each state, each of which it calls “vote updates.”  In online discourse, these are often referred to as “vote dumps” or “vote batches.”

It examines them across states and, controlling for how big a state is and how Democratic it is, does the following:

  • Defines, mathematically, what a “vote spike” is
  • Shows just how rare those are
  • Shows how, during a five-hour period, four particularly extreme vote spikes arrived favoring Joe Biden
  • Shows how crucial these were to Joe Biden’s election in MI, WI, and GA
  • Most damningly, shows how Joe Biden likely would have lost these states — and the election —  were these only more “spiky” than 99% of all vote dumps

The report describes a measurement for showing the relationship between the number of votes Biden wins by (or loses by) in any given vote dump, and how well he did as a ratio of Trump’s votes in that vote dump, while controlling for size and political lean of a state. It thus normalizes the data across states, allowing for apples to apples comparisons. The key mathematical reason why these vote spikes are anomalous is that for every large vote dump heavily favoring Biden in any given area, you also would expect to have smaller vote dumps in the same area which favor him by similar margins. Quoting from the report:

The believability of these updates relies on the premise that the one or two most Biden-favoring parts of the state (perhaps by ballot type) were counted entirely in these two batches.  If it cannot be shown that the ballots counted during these spikes were qualitatively different from all other vote updates in Michigan, then the results are likely too extreme along multiple dimensions to be accepted at face value. [Vote Integrity]

It goes on to describe how the same logic applies for the other updates as well.  Large ballot dumps which heavily favor a candidate make sense, if there are also smaller ones which favor the candidate more.  The “standardization” process used by the researchers here takes care of that, and shows how points up and to the right of the graph are the more “co-extreme” vote dumps, in the language of the report:

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That dotted black line at the top is the 99.5th percentile.  In other words, only one out of every two-hundred points are above it.  The four vote dumps in question are all at or above the 99.92th percentile. With these ratios, if they were at the 99th percentile only, they would each be dragged down to the middle of the three lines shown.  Critically, they account for more than the margin of victory in all three states, and thus forty-two electoral votes, and with them, the Presidency.

Making Sense of This

The analysis is incredibly dense but contains several key points, which American Patriots must remember in the coming days and weeks. The most important points are:

  1. Four of the seven most extreme vote dumps decided the election for Joe Biden.  This alone is bizarre and fundamentally cuts against his narrative of moderate increases in suburban and exurban areas.  Moreover, the distribution is “heavy-tailed” and these vote dumps are vastly more “co-extreme” than even the points around the 99.5th percentile (the dotted black line in the graph above).  
  2. These four vote dumps were quantifiably far more extreme than virtually every other vote dump, with only a few others as extreme in their aberration from the inverse pattern observed elsewhere.
  3. The odds of these three states (GA, WI, MI) being so well-represented at the top of the distribution is just over 1%.  And when you factor in that a vote dump in GA is the 9th most extreme point, the odds that these three states have five of the top ten most extreme vote dumps drop to less than 1%.  Clearly, there’s something different about these states than others, including other blue states, or even other Midwestern states where a deep-blue urban population offsets the red rest of the state (e.g. Illinois, Minnesota), or states like Colorado, Texas, or Oregon, where the urban areas are also vastly more Democratic than the rest of the state.
  4. These vote spikes all occurred in the same five-hour period.  Wisconsin and Michigan both spent around eighteen hours counting votes, and the count took several days in Georgia. We have since learned that the “pipe burst” story in deep-blue Georgia was never in fact true.
  5. This five hour period remains a period of great controversy surrounding how the vote counting was “stopped.”  Recently, we learned that the story of a “pipe bursting” in Georgia was in fact not true.  Combine that with the results shown in this piece, and an obvious picture comes into view: In all three states, the count was “stopped” to give cover for electoral fraud on the scale of hundreds of thousands of votes which were released in the middle of the night, hoping few would notice.

 

The burden of proof is now on Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, the Democratic party, and their various urban machine operatives to defend these results as legitimate.  The on-the-ground circumstances in these states had been suspicious for weeks and warranted investigation in their own right.  We now have the math to confirm our suspicions.  This report, in winding sentences and hedged language, lays it bare for all of us to see: Joe Biden’s election “victory” relied on a fraudulent counting process in the dead of night.

The media has no interest in covering this, and indeed are trying actively to suppress it.  An attempt to Google search for “precincts that stopped the count” makes this clear.  The steal of this election, perpetrated in the middle of the night in several states, was allowed to happen only because of the extraordinary assistance given to the Democrats by Big Media and Big Tech.  Nonetheless, thanks to what appears to be an anonymous group of researchers, we can definitively state what we knew all along:

President Donald J. Trump is the legitimate winner of this election. Republican state legislators in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia must refuse to seat electors for Joe Biden until a complete forensic audit has been conducted.

Never give up.  Never back down.  And never concede.

 

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Just now, 212frawk said:

Defend your position!  How many MAGAT fairies can dance on the head of a pin?

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 I'll take this as a pathetic attempt to avoid offering a valid response or opinion.

Very much expected response from a childish clown 

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13 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

 I'll take this as a pathetic attempt to avoid offering a valid response or opinion.

Very much expected response from a childish clown 

Eat shit MAGAT.  If this BS you posted had one iota of chance to change things, fastass's lawyers would be using it in court.  They are not.  End of story. 


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10 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

Eat shit MAGAT.  If this BS you posted had one iota of chance to change things, fastass's lawyers would be using it in court.  They are not.  End of story. 

Watch the info dump they will be offering up in the AZ meetings. 

This is just the beginnings of exposing the massive fraud.

Admitting it now will be a better look than having to bite that bullet later

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lol massive fraud that the lawyers will not argue in court.  its definitely a garbage dump invented out of whole cloth to convince weak minded MAGATs that their boy actually won.  

25 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Watch the info dump they will be offering up in the AZ meetings. 

This is just the beginnings of exposing the massive fraud.

Admitting it now will be a better look than having to bite that bullet later

dont pay attention to what they say at press conferences, focus on what they say in court.  That's where the truth matters dipshit.

 

 


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3 hours ago, Philly'sFinest said:

Simple enough. Give us your best reasoning as to why or why there was not fraud that affected the election.

I think the statistical analysis done in the article I'll link is about as conclusive as you can get that there's no way this was legitimate.

you know what is interesting, nowhere in the revolver article or the original substack "analysis" can you find the name of the authors of this gibberish.  and then there is this gem:

With this report, we rely only on publicly available data from the New York Times to identify and analyze statistical anomalies in key states.

lol so now its ok to rely on information that comes from the NY Fucking Times?


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All these forever tRumpers are really deranged.  TDS has taken on a whole new meaning.  Silly parades, boats sinking, tears flowing, sweaty hair dye lawyers and their fake news, conspiracy theories, tiny desk, loser mentality and on and on and on. 

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3 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

you know what is interesting, nowhere in the revolver article or the original substack "analysis" can you find the name of the authors of this gibberish.  and then there is this gem:

With this report, we rely only on publicly available data from the New York Times to identify and analyze statistical anomalies in key states.

lol so now its ok to rely on information that comes from the NY Fucking Times?

It's public data, bud.

Matt Braynard will also be providing data gathered that shows thousands of voters that voted in multiple states among other discrepancies uncovered.

You can keep denying if you wish...just remember that it's not going away, and that there are too many people dedicated to uncovering the truth for the sake of our country for it to stop.

You'll ultimately be on the wrong side of history, but scum like you likely couldn't care less because you simply don't care about America or it's citizens.

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4 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

All these forever tRumpers are really deranged.  TDS has taken on a whole new meaning.  Silly parades, boats sinking, tears flowing, sweaty hair dye lawyers and their fake news, conspiracy theories, tiny desk, loser mentality and on and on and on. 

So you wanna offer a real response, or are you another simpleton playing off of losers like Hip and Fraudk with lame lines like the above?

I think we already got our answer

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2 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

All these forever tRumpers are really deranged.  TDS has taken on a whole new meaning.  Silly parades, boats sinking, tears flowing, sweaty hair dye lawyers and their fake news, conspiracy theories, tiny desk, loser mentality and on and on and on. 

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7 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

It's public data, bud.

Matt Braynard will also be providing data gathered that shows thousands of voters that voted in multiple states among other discrepancies uncovered.

You can keep denying if you wish...just remember that it's not going away, and that there are too many people dedicated to uncovering the truth for the sake of our country for it to stop.

You'll ultimately be on the wrong side of history, but scum like you likely couldn't care less because you simply don't care about America or it's citizens.

Eat shit MAGAT.  Bet something of substance on your retarded conspiracy theory that is oh-fer in court. I will take ANY bet you can muster up, loser. 


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7 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

Eat shit MAGAT.  Bet something of substance on your retarded conspiracy theory that is oh-fer in court. I will take ANY bet you can muster up, loser. 

I'm not saying the courts will overturn the election (50/50 in my mind), but everyone will see that Biden and his puppet masters cheated, and it will be irrefutable. 

Here's another article that you or nobody else will ever consider challenging 

https://www.theblaze.com/amp/horowitz-new-analysis-shows-biden-winning-nearly-impossible-margins-on-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania-2649082078?__twitter_impression=true

 

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Horowitz: New analysis shows Biden winning nearly impossible margins on mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania

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DANIEL HOROWITZ

There has been a lot of focus on the number of mail-in ballots counted in Pennsylvania and the illegal state Supreme Court decisions that enabled them. But what is even more important to examine is the impossible margins Joe Biden would have achieved just among those mail-in ballots and just in Pennsylvania in order to obtain the unofficial lead he currently has.

Here are the facts. We know that 2.6 million mail-in ballots have been counted in the Pennsylvania election returns, in addition to nearly 4.2 million Election Day votes. We also know from the secretary of state that Trump won Election Day votes, 2.7 million to 1.4 million. But we are to believe that Biden won 76% of mail-in ballots.

Yes, mail-ins overwhelmingly skewed Democrat, like Election Day votes skewed Republican, but they were not all from Democrats. We know that 64.7% of those votes were from registered Democrats, 23.7% from Republicans, and 11.6% from nonpartisan or other party voters.

What does this mean in simple arithmetic? My friend (who goes by screen name Gummi Bear on Twitter) crunched the numbers and showed that had Biden won 95% of returned Democrat mail-in votes, 21% of returned Republican votes, and 80% of returned independent votes, he would still have come up short of his margin of victory reported in the unofficial tally.

We know those numbers alone are absurd. There is no way Biden won 21% of mail-in ballots from registered Republicans in this state. Exit polls showed Biden getting just 8% of the GOP vote overall. While the 95% number for Democrat mail-ins is more believable (exits showed him getting 92%), the notion that 80% of mail-ins from independents went to Biden is nearly impossible. Exit polls showed Biden winning 52% of the vote of independents overall. It would defy logic to think that there was such a qualitative gap between the type of independents who came out on Election Day and those who voted by mail.

Assuming the mail-ins broke down in accordance with the exit polls, Biden would be down by 213K votes, even if every one of the 2.6 million mail-ins were truly valid and had proper matching signatures.

And speaking of signature validation, this statistical anomaly should lend a lot of suspicion to the already questionably low rejection rate of mail-in ballots this year. According to the 2016 Election Administration and Voting Survey, the rejection rate last election was just a tad under 1% in the Keystone State, even though there were only 266K mail-in ballots, which are mainly those who have experience filling out absentee ballots. This year, with 2.6 million mail-ins, consisting primarily of first-timers, we are to believe that just 0.038% were invalid?

Some estimates show that mail-in ballots from first-timers are three times more likely to be rejected. Yet we are to believe the acceptance rate this year was 27 times higher than in 2016?

Can you imagine what we would find if there was an attempt to audit and match all 2.6 million ballots for valid signatures and other information? Even Barack Obama, during his March 2008 primary with Hillary Clinton, raised concerns about the need to verify signatures on mail-in ballots.

FLASHBACK: Obama Cast Doubt On Mail-In Ballots, Praised Signature Verification (As Dems Sue To Ban)www.youtube.com

The sheer number of perfectly completed absentee ballots and the shockingly lopsided margins for Biden seem to lie beyond our willing suspension of disbelief on numerous fronts. For example, as state Sen. Mike Jones (R) explained at the hearing in Gettysburg last Wednesday, just an apples-to-apples comparison between Republican Election Day vs. Republican mail-in ballots and then Democrat Election Day vs. Democrat mail-in ballots reveals an extremely anomalous and contradictory trend in down-ballot races as compared to the presidential race.

While Trump supposedly lost at the top of the ticket, Republican Stacy Garrity beat incumbent Democrat Joseph Torsella in the race for state treasurer, even though she garnered 91,000 fewer votes than Trump. That in itself is not surprising, because many people don't bother to complete the down-ballot votes, so it stands to reason that the total votes cast would be lower. What is interesting, however, is that while Trump got 170,000 more Election Day votes than Garrity, the obscure Republican running for the little-known state treasurer office got 41,000 more votes than Trump via mail-ins.

Source: Pennsylvania Secretary of State

So again, mail-in voters seem to really dislike Trump, even compared to other Republicans.

The same dynamic played out in the state auditor's race, where the Republican ultimately won the election with fewer votes than Trump, but did better than Trump in mail-ins. Trump received 105,000 more votes that Republican Timothy Defoor on Election Day, but managed to receive 65,000 fewer votes among mail-ins.

Source: Pennsylvania Secretary of State

Now hold that thought for a moment.

We see that when comparing predominantly Republican voters to each other in both races, fewer people filled out the ballot for the obscure Republican treasurer and auditor candidates when voting in person. This makes sense, because more people would be in a rush after waiting in line for an hour and would be feeling pressured by the people and election officials around them, compared to those filling out ballots in the comfort of their homes. I'd certainly expect to find more "lazy ballots" among those voting on Election Day.

With this in mind, let's move on to the race for attorney general. Incumbent Democrat Joshua Shapiro is certainly more well known than either candidate for state treasurer or auditor, and he won by the largest margin of any statewide election candidate that night. If the obscure Republican victor for treasurer outpaced Trump's total for mail-in ballots (while garnering fewer votes than Trump overall), one would certainly expect Shapiro to outpace Biden among mostly Democrat voters in mail-in ballots.

Source: Pennsylvania Secretary of State

Well, as luck would have it, Shapiro got 52,000 more votes than Biden on Election Day, but 54,000 fewer votes than Biden among mail-ins. If people are lazy about filling out down-ballot races, wouldn't you expect to see that more among Election Day votes, as we saw with Republican candidates?

These are not conclusions or closing arguments, but these observations definitely warrant further investigation for one simple reason: The entire premise of having an election with one-third of the ballots cast through mail was built upon an illegal political decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which unilaterally overrode state laws, violating the federal Constitution, which vests state legislatures with the power over election procedures. It also violated the state constitution.

The suggestion that we should somehow move on from this is a greater threat to democracy than anything in our history. Republicans who think they can just walk away from this without controversy will learn the hard way in the years to come about their inability to win against this novel form of electioneering. After all, we live in a time of "the new normal."


 

 

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14 minutes ago, Philly'sFinest said:

I'm not saying the courts will overturn the election (50/50 in my mind), but everyone will see that Biden and his puppet masters cheated, and it will be irrefutable. 

Here's another article that you or nobody else will ever consider challenging 

https://www.theblaze.com/amp/horowitz-new-analysis-shows-biden-winning-nearly-impossible-margins-on-mail-in-ballots-in-pennsylvania-2649082078?__twitter_impression=true

the court will do what the facts dictate.  you are already hedging on this because you know its completely delusion bullshit that you are peddling.  if it were factual, it would stand up in court.  that I have to say this over and over to you is evidence of how delusional you really are.

Youre a pathetic conspiracy monger who cannot back up your claims.  

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43 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

All these forever tRumpers are really deranged.  TDS has taken on a whole new meaning.  Silly parades, boats sinking, tears flowing, sweaty hair dye lawyers and their fake news, conspiracy theories, tiny desk, loser mentality and on and on and on. 

So, why your obsession???

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12 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

the court will do what the facts dictate.  you are already hedging on this because you know its completely delusion bullshit that you are peddling.  if it were factual, it would stand up in court.  that I have to say this over and over to you is evidence of how delusional you really are.

Youre a pathetic conspiracy monger who cannot back up your claims.  

Exactly. 

If the evidence holds up in court, I would gladly say that the election was stolen.

At this time there is no evidence holding up in court that proves voter fraud or election fraud on a mass scale that affected the election.

 


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5 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Exactly. 

If the evidence holds up in court, I would gladly say that the election was stolen.

At this time there is no evidence holding up in court that proves voter fraud or election fraud on a mass scale that affected the election.

OMG this is the funniest thing I have read in a long time.....

 

The Pennsylvania monstrosity that was submitted by Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, and the Four Seasons Total Litigation supporting cast was terrible. It made, according to a federal appeals court ruling, “vague and conclusory” allegations about alleged misconduct, tried to get the court to do things that would violate the U.S. Constitution, and had, in the court’s words, “no merit.” Their case was such complete nonsense that two courts and four judges decided it was too dumb to fix.

You want that to be the bottom. You want the lawsuit that the president’s legal team lost, twice, for literally every reason it’s possible to lose the case to be the most preposterous election lawsuit we’re going to see this year. You go to bed Wednesday night hoping that it was.

And you wake up disappointed Thursday morning because while you slept Sidney Powell released the #Kraken.

Powell had been threatening to release the Kraken for the last week, which she spent “practicing law on her own” after being unpersoned by the Trump legal team following a press conference in which she spouted conspiracy theories so insane that even Giuliani’s hair dye was trying to get out of the room. It wasn’t clear what the Kraken was until it was released and we learned that it had taken the form of matching his-and-hers lawsuits in Georgia and Michigan. Lawsuits that have redefined rock bottom.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

the court will do what the facts dictate.  you are already hedging on this because you know its completely delusion bullshit that you are peddling.  if it were factual, it would stand up in court.  that I have to say this over and over to you is evidence of how delusional you really are.

Youre a pathetic conspiracy monger who cannot back up your claims.  

You guys do understand how high the bar is here and the limited time they are working with, right?

We've also seen a concerted effort by big media, big tech, and corrupt politicians and judges to do everything in their power to make sure Trump doesn't get a second term as well, or will you also deny this?

You are all the pussies here not willing to speak on all these examples and evidence, not me. 

You fall back on the courts instead of even saying anything about the numerous articles and examples.

Being a coward is one thing. Being a coward on the internet using the court as an excuse is next level cowardess.

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