At least one team is trying to get better - Ravens trade for Pro-Bowler Yannick Ngakoue

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[LiterateStylish 12,023]

Only cost them a 3rd and a 5th.

Yannick has 5 sacks, 12 tackles and 2 Forced Fumbles in 6 games.

He is on pace for 13 sacks and 5 Forced Fumbles this year.

Beaney ... you awake?

[the climber 152]

Asleep at the switch.

 

[Baldat28 73]

Yup, I know what the excuse will be: well we wouldn't realistically be able to keep him long term. 

So instead of going for it this year and paying very little to do so, they sit on their hands and watch a team go out and do the things they should be doing.

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2 minutes ago, Baldat28 said:

Yup, I know what the excuse will be: well we wouldn't realistically be able to keep him long term. 

So instead of going for it this year and paying very little to do so, they sit on their hands and watch a team go out and do the things they should be doing.

I'd trade a 3rd and 5th for a one year rental.

Honestly.

Let's look at our recent 3rd and 5th round choices

2020: Moss and Bass - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2019: Knox and Vosean (cut) - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2018: Phillips (benched last game) and Neal - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

 

 

[Crazy Legs 396]

And were we in the mix?

PS Why did the Vikings trade to get him, and now trade him away?  Weird.

[HipKat 76]

I’ve given up thinking that this team really wants to win a championship

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21 minutes ago, Crazy Legs said:

And were we in the mix?

PS Why did the Vikings trade to get him, and now trade him away?  Weird.

Because the Vikings suck and are trying to get draft capital back.

[Baldat28 73]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

I'd trade a 3rd and 5th for a one year rental.

Honestly.

Let's look at our recent 3rd and 5th round choices

2020: Moss and Bass - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2019: Knox and Vosean (cut) - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2018: Phillips (benched last game) and Neal - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

I'd do it in a heartbeat, I already know that's the excuse they're gonna use if asked about it though. 

[theAteam 358]

1 hour ago, LiterateStylish said:

I'd trade a 3rd and 5th for a one year rental.

Honestly.

Let's look at our recent 3rd and 5th round choices

2020: Moss and Bass - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2019: Knox and Vosean (cut) - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2018: Phillips (benched last game) and Neal - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

Damn this really puts it in perspective.

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But he never played for Carolina, so.....

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18 minutes ago, The Chosen said:

But he never played for Carolina, so.....

lol

right

[nealpellecchia@yahoo 1,204]

Jeez, how we gonna block him?

[SackMan518 5,369]

We don't have the cap money to trade for him... next!

[bv 9,440]

I'm surprised the Bills aren't doing anything.What do they have to say for themselves?

[daryls61 8,280]

Bills only have 3.6 - 4 mil in cap space depending on which site you use. Ngakoue's cap hit is 5.1 Mil at Sporatic and 12mil at over the cap so I don't think they could have afforded him. 

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15 minutes ago, daryls61 said:

Bills only have 3.6 - 4 mil in cap space depending on which site you use. Ngakoue's cap hit is 5.1 Mil at Sporatic and 12mil at over the cap so I don't think they could have afforded him. 

1 hour ago, SackMan518 said:

We don't have the cap money to trade for him... next!

Going into today, the Ravens only had 1 more million of cap space than the Bills.

Stop talking out of your butts 😂

Teams can make cap space by moving contracts around quite easily.

Ps, if the Bills were actually worried about cap space, they wouldn’t have cut Spain which created a $4 million dead money cap hit.

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Over the cap shows the Ravens with 4.9 mil in cap space without Ngakoue's contract so the probably could have found 200k somewhere to take on the 5.1 mil but the Bills would have had to find between 1 and 1.4 mil so doable but bot quite as easy. Also, tough to say what this would do down the road for resigning players or if any player would actually renegotiate to give the Bills space. 

If you can find the money and want to give up a 3rd and a 5th for a rental, maybe. There has to be a reason 2 teams got rid of this guy though. Just seems odd. 

 

I wonder if they could get Watt out of Houston. He has term left so I think you could extend him. There h

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9 minutes ago, daryls61 said:

Over the cap shows the Ravens with 4.9 mil in cap space without Ngakoue's contract so the probably could have found 200k somewhere to take on the 5.1 mil but the Bills would have had to find between 1 and 1.4 mil so doable but bot quite as easy. Also, tough to say what this would do down the road for resigning players or if any player would actually renegotiate to give the Bills space. 

If you can find the money and want to give up a 3rd and a 5th for a rental, maybe. There has to be a reason 2 teams got rid of this guy though. Just seems odd. 

I wonder if they could get Watt out of Houston. He has term left so I think you could extend him. There h

That’s not how it works.

The Ravens will have several million leftover AFTER adding Yannick’s contract.

Ill try to bump this thread in a few days to show you.

Vikings got rid of him because they didn’t expect to be 1-5 or whatever they are.

They figure let’s get some draft picks while we can and rebuild.

As for the Jags, they’re trading everybody.

[daryls61 8,280]

Could be. Over the cap doesnt have him added yet. Sporadic does and shows Ravens at - 6mil in cap space. I would think the cap hit would only the the salary that was left to be paid. I honesty don't know how it works with trades. 

Still - 2 teams gave up on the guy so something doesn't seem right. A 3rd and a 5th is a good haul for the Vikings so I don't blame them for making the deal. 

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On 10/22/2020 at 11:16 AM, LiterateStylish said:

I'd trade a 3rd and 5th for a one year rental.

Honestly.

Let's look at our recent 3rd and 5th round choices

2020: Moss and Bass - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2019: Knox and Vosean (cut) - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

2018: Phillips (benched last game) and Neal - I'd trade both for a Pro Bowl DE who gets sacks and forces fumbles.

Trading for an established player - You know what you are getting.  Quite frankly it is a good strategy at times.  

While the Draft is a crap shoot.   Consider 2nd round picks like Cyrus Kouandjio, Zay Jones, Reggie Ragland, Cody Ford or AJ Epenesa.  
And that is the 2nd round.  It is even more of a crap shoot with later rounds.

Trade a 3rd round pick for Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Giants plus their 6th or 7th round pick.

You get a proven player, in exchange for taking on the risk of losing him to Free Agency.   But the Culture in Buffalo is strong, so re-signing Tomlinson is doable.