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Former NFL GM says accuracy does not get better

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And you take the opinion of this guy who doesn't know his asshole from his elbow.

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Mike Tannenbaum was hired by the Dolphins to be the Executive Vice President of Football Operations, starting February 1, 2015 after acting as a consultant for the team during the 2014 NFL season. On December 31, 2018 he was reassigned from his duties without a defined purpose. (iow, heres some money, stop making the organization fail)

Ryan Tannehill - as soon as he leaves miami, Tannehill vaults to a 70% passer (!) with a robust 9.6 yds/att (!!) and leads his team into the playoffs

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       100 98 49-49-0 2030 3197 63.5 23176 145 4.5 81 2.5 1127 91 7.2 7.0 11.4 231.8 89.8   279 2097 6.06 5.85 8.0 17 16 72
2012 24 MIA QB 17 16 16 7-9-0 282 484 58.3 3294 12 2.5 13 2.7 151 80 6.8 6.1 11.7 205.9 76.1 48.4 35 234 5.90 5.23 6.7 1 1 10
2013 25 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 355 588 60.4 3913 24 4.1 17 2.9 204 67 6.7 6.2 11.0 244.6 81.7 49.3 58 399 5.44 5.00 9.0 4 3 10
2014 26 MIA QB 17 16 16 8-8-0 392 590 66.4 4045 27 4.6 12 2.0 225 50 6.9 6.9 10.3 252.8 92.8 59.3 46 337 5.83 5.83 7.2 2 1 14
2015 27 MIA QB 17 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 195 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 46.3 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2 11
2016 28 MIA QB 17 13 13 8-5-0 261 389 67.1 2995 19 4.9 12 3.1 134 74 7.7 7.3 11.5 230.4 93.5 49.4 29 216 6.65 6.27 6.9 3 3 10
2018 30 MIA QB 17 11 11 5-6-0 176 274 64.2 1979 17 6.2 9 3.3 92 75 7.2 7.0 11.2 179.9 92.7 31.0 35 279 5.50 5.29 11.3 3 3 6
2019* 31 TEN QB 17 12 10 7-3-0 201 286 70.3 2742 22 7.7 6 2.1 126 91 9.6 10.2 13.6 228.5 117.5   31 212 7.98 8.52 9.8 2 3 11

 

Steve Young

 

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       169 143 94-49-0 2667 4149 64.3 33124 232 5.6 107 2.6 848 97 8.0 7.9 12.4 196.0 96.8 358 2055 6.89 6.85 7.9 13 16 171
1985 24 TAM qb 8 5 5 1-4-0 72 138 52.2 935 3 2.2 8 5.8   59 6.8 4.6 13.0 187.0 56.9 21 158 4.89 3.00 13.2 1 1 4
1986 25 TAM QB 8 14 14 2-12-0 195 363 53.7 2282 8 2.2 13 3.6   46 6.3 5.1 11.7 163.0 65.5 47 326 4.77 3.73 11.5     9
1987 26 SFO   8 8 3 2-1-0 37 69 53.6 570 10 14.5 0 0.0   50 8.3 11.2 15.4 71.3 120.8 3 25 7.57 10.35 4.2     4
1988 27 SFO   8 11 3 2-1-0 54 101 53.5 680 3 3.0 3 3.0   73 6.7 6.0 12.6 61.8 72.2 13 75 5.31 4.65 11.4 1 1 4
1989 28 SFO   8 10 3 3-0-0 64 92 69.6 1001 8 8.7 3 3.3   50 10.9 11.2 15.6 100.1 120.8 12 84 8.82 9.06 11.5 0 1 5
1990 29 SFO   8 6 1 0-1-0 38 62 61.3 427 2 3.2 0 0.0   34 6.9 7.5 11.2 71.2 92.6 8 41 5.51 6.09 11.4 1 1 2
1991 30 SFO QB 8 11 10 5-5-0 180 279 64.5 2517 17 6.1 8 2.9   97 9.0 8.9 14.0 228.8 101.8 13 79 8.35 8.28 4.5     14
1992*+ 31 SFO QB 8 16 16 14-2-0 268 402 66.7 3465 25 6.2 7 1.7   80 8.6 9.1 12.9 216.6 107.0 29 152 7.69 8.12 6.7 3 5 22
1993*+ 32 SFO QB 8 16 16 10-6-0 314 462 68.0 4023 29 6.3 16 3.5   80 8.7 8.4 12.8 251.4 101.5 31 160 7.84 7.55 6.3     23
1994*+ 33 SFO QB 8 16 16 13-3-0 324 461 70.3 3969 35 7.6 10 2.2 187 69 8.6 9.2 12.3 248.1 112.8 31 163 7.74 8.24 6.3 1 1 23
1995* 34 SFO QB 8 11 11 8-3-0 299 447 66.9 3200 20 4.5 11 2.5 163 57 7.2 6.9 10.7 290.9 92.3 25 115 6.54 6.33 5.3     14
1996* 35 SFO QB 8 12 12 9-3-0 214 316 67.7 2410 14 4.4 6 1.9 125 52 7.6 7.7 11.3 200.8 97.2 34 160 6.43 6.46 9.7 2 2 12
1997* 36 SFO QB 8 15 15 12-3-0 241 356 67.7 3029 19 5.3 6 1.7 148 82 8.5 8.8 12.6 201.9 104.7 35 220 7.18 7.47 9.0 1 1 14
1998* 37 SFO QB 8 15 15 11-4-0 322 517 62.3 4170 36 7.0 12 2.3 208 81 8.1 8.4 13.0 278.0 101.1 48 234 6.97 7.28 8.5 2 3 19
1999 38 SFO   8 3 3 2-1-0 45 84 53.6 446 3 3.6 4 4.8 17 53 5.3 3.9 9.9 148.7 60.9 8 63 4.16 2.86 8.7 1 0 2

 


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Peyton Manning

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       266 265 186-79-0 6125 9380 65.3 71940 539 5.7 251 2.7 3674 86 7.7 7.6 11.7 270.5 96.5   303 1953 7.23 7.17 3.1 43 54 271
1998 22 IND QB 18 16 16 3-13-0 326 575 56.7 3739 26 4.5 28 4.9 191 78 6.5 5.2 11.5 233.7 71.2   22 109 6.08 4.84 3.7 1 1 11
1999* 23 IND QB 18 16 16 13-3-0 331 533 62.1 4135 26 4.9 15 2.8 197 80 7.8 7.5 12.5 258.4 90.7   14 116 7.35 7.06 2.6 6 7 18
2000* 24 IND QB 18 16 16 10-6-0 357 571 62.5 4413 33 5.8 15 2.6 213 78 7.7 7.7 12.4 275.8 94.7   20 131 7.25 7.22 3.4 2 3 18
2001 25 IND QB 18 16 16 6-10-0 343 547 62.7 4131 26 4.8 23 4.2 201 86 7.6 6.6 12.0 258.2 84.1   29 232 6.77 5.88 5.0     15
2002* 26 IND QB 18 16 16 10-6-0 392 591 66.3 4200 27 4.6 19 3.2 213 69 7.1 6.6 10.7 262.5 88.8   23 145 6.60 6.09 3.7 4 5 14
2003*+ 27 IND QB 18 16 16 12-4-0 379 566 67.0 4267 29 5.1 10 1.8 213 79 7.5 7.8 11.3 266.7 99.0   18 107 7.12 7.35 3.1 3 4 18
2004*+ 28 IND QB 18 16 16 12-4-0 336 497 67.6 4557 49 9.9 10 2.0 233 80 9.2 10.2 13.6 284.8 121.1   13 101 8.74 9.78 2.5 2 4 21
2005*+ 29 IND QB 18 16 16 14-2-0 305 453 67.3 3747 28 6.2 10 2.2 198 80 8.3 8.5 12.3 234.2 104.1   17 81 7.80 8.03 3.6 1 1 18
2006* 30 IND QB 18 16 16 12-4-0 362 557 65.0 4397 31 5.6 9 1.6 242 68 7.9 8.3 12.1 274.8 101.0 87.4 14 86 7.55 7.93 2.5 3 3 20
2007* 31 IND QB 18 16 16 13-3-0 337 515 65.4 4040 31 6.0 14 2.7 207 73 7.8 7.8 12.0 252.5 98.0 76.5 21 124 7.31 7.29 3.9 1 2 17
2008*+ 32 IND QB 18 16 16 12-4-0 371 555 66.8 4002 27 4.9 12 2.2 213 75 7.2 7.2 10.8 250.1 95.0 78.3 14 86 6.88 6.88 2.5 4 6 16
2009*+ 33 IND QB 18 16 16 14-2-0 393 571 68.8 4500 33 5.8 16 2.8 241 80 7.9 7.8 11.5 281.3 99.9 81.3 10 74 7.62 7.51 1.7 7 7 17
2010* 34 IND QB 18 16 16 10-6-0 450 679 66.3 4700 33 4.9 17 2.5 253 73 6.9 6.8 10.4 293.8 91.9 75.7 16 91 6.63 6.48 2.3 0 2 16
2011   Missed season - Neck injury
2012*+ 36 DEN QB 18 16 16 13-3-0 400 583 68.6 4659 37 6.3 11 1.9 231 71 8.0 8.4 11.6 291.2 105.8 79.6 21 137 7.49 7.89 3.5 3 3 15
2013*+ 37 DEN QB 18 16 16 13-3-0 450 659 68.3 5477 55 8.3 10 1.5 291 78 8.3 9.3 12.2 342.3 115.1 80.9 18 120 7.91 8.87 2.7 2 2 19
2014* 38 DEN QB 18 16 16 12-4-0 395 597 66.2 4727 39 6.5 15 2.5 227 86 7.9 8.1 12.0 295.4 101.5 72.0 17 118 7.51 7.68 2.8 1 1 16
2015 39 DEN QB 18 10 9 7-2-0 198 331 59.8 2249 9 2.7 17 5.1 110 75 6.8 5.0 11.4 224.9 67.9 43.9 16 95 6.21 4.52 4.6 3 3 2

 

 


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Hey lets pass this onto Josh.....this should help?  Easy pacheezy....

 

 

4 drills to help QBs sharpen accuracy
  1. Toes on the line. QBs align 10 yards apart standing on a line. ...
  2. Punch step. Still aligned 10 yards apart, QBs assume a stance with shoulders perpendicular to the line of scrimmage and feet parallel to the line. ...
  3. The easy way. Still aligned 10 yards apart, face away from the partner. ...
  4. The hard way.

 

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EJ Manual couldn't improve accuracy. Accuracy is a broad term that has many factors init.  It is one of the more difficult things to improve.  I hope Josh can, and he seems to have the mental ability and works very hard.

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11 hours ago, LiterateStylish said:

Thus why he is a former GM. Terrible talent evaluator and predictor of players development. 
 

his accuracy changed a lot after his first year so what he said is complete bullshit when it comes to a QB who doesn't have to change his delivery. Just footwork and non throwing arm placement. Small stuff, not a major overhaul. 

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1 hour ago, Flan said:

EJ Manual couldn't improve accuracy. Accuracy is a broad term that has many factors init.  It is one of the more difficult things to improve.  I hope Josh can, and he seems to have the mental ability and works very hard.

It's bad technique with Josh. He tightened a lot of things up this offseason keeping his non throwing arm tight to his body, aiming to his target and throwing on an axis. Putting the advise he got from Romo to work. It will allow him to throw off platform better. Not a Tim Tebow disaster, very manageable 

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completion % and accuracy are different things.

I do think that putting Josh in positions to complete more passes would help him greatly. If we had a nasty screen game like we had under Chan Gailey, that would help him a ton. Having guys that don't drop the ball would be nice too.

I'm optimistic that he can be effective, but I'm not expecting him to ever be much better than a top 12-15 QB.


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How many times was he fired?


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5 hours ago, seandelevan said:

Like I said...stop forcing square peg into round hole.

make him a running QB.

Thats crazy. If you think for 1 sec he could live off being a running ok you are crazy.

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17 minutes ago, protocal69 said:

Thats crazy. If you think for 1 sec he could live off being a running ok you are crazy.

thats what im thinking

allen was a known project. you cant fix everything at once, but once he focuses on improving a particular area, he does. plus he has one of the most valuable natural skills a qb can have: hes clutch af

running qbs who rely heavily on that part of their game get injured 100% of the time. more sooner than later they will be forced to play from the pocket. most of them cant make the transition, though a few do

everything appears to point to another big jump in allens abilities as a passer. why would you risk losing that by making him run even more? id like to see him run LESS scripted qb runs and just take the yardage he gets from scrambling, which would still be around 400yds per season

everybody is giddy in baltimore as jackson dipsy-doodles around guys to score tds. but just wait when circumstance lines up and he blows out a knee or busts an ankle or something. they are going to regret running him as much as they do. after all, 100% is 100%. its coming


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7 hours ago, protocal69 said:

Thats crazy. If you think for 1 sec he could live off being a running ok you are crazy.

If you think for one sec he could live being a pocket passer you are crazy.

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7 hours ago, Meathead said:

thats what im thinking

allen was a known project. you cant fix everything at once, but once he focuses on improving a particular area, he does. plus he has one of the most valuable natural skills a qb can have: hes clutch af

running qbs who rely heavily on that part of their game get injured 100% of the time. more sooner than later they will be forced to play from the pocket. most of them cant make the transition, though a few do

everything appears to point to another big jump in allens abilities as a passer. why would you risk losing that by making him run even more? id like to see him run LESS scripted qb runs and just take the yardage he gets from scrambling, which would still be around 400yds per season

everybody is giddy in baltimore as jackson dipsy-doodles around guys to score tds. but just wait when circumstance lines up and he blows out a knee or busts an ankle or something. they are going to regret running him as much as they do. after all, 100% is 100%. its coming

There is no evidence that running QBs get hurt more than non running QBs. I posted Iike 5 links last week about it. Look it up.

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On 8/13/2020 at 6:06 AM, seandelevan said:

If you think for one sec he could live being a pocket passer you are crazy.

We’ll see this year now won’t we.


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