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Police officers will be replaced by unarmed city workers at traffic stops in a Californian city in a bid to 'limit racial profiling.'

 

Philip Stinson, a criminal justice professor at Bowling Green State University, called the idea an 'overly simplistic plan that could have deadly consequences for unarmed traffic enforcement officers.'

Nine U.S. police officers were killed during traffic stops so far this year, according to data compiled by the National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund. Six were shot, and three were struck by vehicles.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8526243/Berkeley-moves-removing-police-traffic-stops.html


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Good grief....


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5 hours ago, HipKat said:

Good grief....

I thought you would be all for this


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3 hours ago, Nuke said:

I thought you would be all for this

Why would you think that? I"ved never advocated for this. The ONLY thing I think is a good idea is not using Police for Domestic-type cases or having an officer accompany a Social Worker type that is better trained for these situations, freeing up more money and personnel for actual law enforcement. 

Look, Police should enforce the laws. Speeding is breaking a law. That's a situation for the police.

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Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

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HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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3 hours ago, HipKat said:

Why would you think that? I"ved never advocated for this. The ONLY thing I think is a good idea is not using Police for Domestic-type cases or having an officer accompany a Social Worker type that is better trained for these situations, freeing up more money and personnel for actual law enforcement. 

Look, Police should enforce the laws. Speeding is breaking a law. That's a situation for the police.

Your constantly posting articles educating us on what defunding the police means. So are the police going to have social workers riding along with them or are the social workers going to be on call and the police going to have to wait for them before answering a domestic type case? All questions that have to be answered. It’s easy to say defund the police. It’s not as easy to say have them handle this alone, but this with a social worker and this they shouldn’t be handling at all. Isn’t it just easier to have the police trained to handle everything? Doesn’t that mean more funding, not less?

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You should run for office. We need someone like you that has all these answers. I don’t know, that’s why I’m all for having law enforcement people handle all this stuff. 


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3 minutes ago, DeRokerij said:

And what happens when one of these unarmed city workers, who have zero training in traffic stops, get their head blown off by someone who pulls a gun on them during the traffic stop. Do the police get called then, or just the morgue to come get the dead city worker?

What a joke.

That’s not going to happen. Not while the “Hug Patrol” is on the case. 


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those city workers wont be doing it for long. the first time someone gets killed in that job, probably about three days, the rest of them will quit or refuse, obviously

secondly, crime will skyrocket. one of law enforcements most powerful tools is catching crooks in their cars. the neo-racists call that profiling, its actually finding people that match the description of someone they are looking for and waiting for (or manufacturing) a reason to pull them over to check them out. without that, criminals from the hood and trailer parks will be traveling in rented busses to go to affluent suburbs to burglarize homes there, like a douchebag field trip

do black folks get pulled over more often than whites? absolutely. but theres two huge reasons. first, blacks are sixteen times more likely to commit violent crimes and murder than whites (!). accounting for population difference, thats 96 times more likely to commit violent crimes and murder (!!). secondly, blacks really are harder to distinguish from each other than whites. whites have a much wider range of features, hair and eye color alone increase white variety exponentially. and the fact that darker skin makes it hard to distinguish features unless youre pretty close is another real factor that puts blacks at a disadvantage in this case

guess who profiles black folks the most? black folks. multiple times i have been with black people walking down the sidewalk in the evening when they suddenly jaywalk to the other side of the street. the first time i asked why and they pointed to a black man coming toward us on our former side. ive also been in cars that took side roads to avoid intersections with blacks milling around bc they were afraid of attacks to their cars or to them. so profiling is a legitimate, effective, and prudent tool in the fight against the ghastly level of violent crimes committed by blacks

blacks need to accept that in order for us to get control of this incredibly high relative frequency of the worst crimes coming out of blackness, we need to allow cops to pull over suspects that match the description of offenders they are tracking. yes, that means more blacks than whites as a pcent of population will get pulled over more. but if you stop hating the police, stop presenting a bitchy attitude that makes them suspicious, stop resisting them, stop goading them, and stop the fake 'ooh im scared' bullshit, you will be checked out and on your way. i can honestly say if it were whites leading the league in the worst offenses i would be willing to put up with an increase in pullovers to fight the scourge

oh man, the karens on this board are going to have an aneurysm over that one

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4 hours ago, HipKat said:

Why would you think that? I"ved never advocated for this. The ONLY thing I think is a good idea is not using Police for Domestic-type cases or having an officer accompany a Social Worker type that is better trained for these situations, freeing up more money and personnel for actual law enforcement. 

Look, Police should enforce the laws. Speeding is breaking a law. That's a situation for the police.

You want a social worker to show up to a situation where a (usually drunk) man is beating his wife? Or is a “domestic” situation something different in your mind?

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How can a "social worker" have any experience dealing with a mentally ill domestic violence antagonist at his home with weapons and in most cases extreme anger plus having already used violence on the victim?  A "social worker" in most cases is not a qualified psychologist nor do they have much training in psychology or how to defuse a violent or potentially violent dispute.  The social worker comes into play after the fact to help the victim and the perpetrator find available government programs and psychological counseling.  Additionally, state governments do not pay well in these social worker jobs causing low state workforce numbers. There are just not enough people coming out of college with sociology degrees or follow-on counselor training that could come close to handling these situations.  Some lib's pie-in-the-sky stupid answer to a perceived crisis.  

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1 hour ago, DeRokerij said:

And what happens when one of these unarmed city workers, who have zero training in traffic stops, get their head blown off by someone who pulls a gun on them during the traffic stop. Do the police get called then, or just the morgue to come get the dead city worker?

What a joke.

A few people are going to have to die in order for that light bulb to come on.  :niterider:

 

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I cant believe educated people actually think this idea could work. it's going to be a disaster for all of us.

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Here's another beauty.

Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers In Massive Reduction Of Police Department

 

The Seattle City Council is facing something of a dilemma in its popular pledge to cut the police budget by 50 percent. To do so would require firing a significant number of police officers, which is also popular. The problem is that the firing would be done by seniority and many of the less senior officers are black.  The solution according to City Council member Lisa Herbold is simple: fire officers based on their race.  While that would be the definition of racial discrimination, Herbold clearly believes that it is discrimination for a good cause. The federal courts are likely to disagree.  Most notably, Herbold’s call for racial discrimination against white officers would seek to undue the work of Justice Thurgood Marshall who insisted that racial discrimination unlawful and evil regardless of the race you want to disenfranchise or discriminate against.

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best released a video calling the plan of Herbold and others “completely reckless.” She also sent a letter to Mayor Jenny Durkan warning that dramatic cuts would require the layoff of hundreds of officers. The Police Department also warned that the firings would include many minority officers.    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/17/seattle-city-council-member-suggests-firing-white-officers-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/

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It's as if we are standing out on our front lawns and they just run up and throwing paint and graffitiing on our house.  They are not hiding anything about themselves.  

 

 

 


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im fine with the entire police dept being black. no more exclusive attention on white cops and black suspects. no more excuses of racism. blacks commit the most of the worst crimes anyway, lets let blacks go track them down and bring them to justice

of course this ignores the utter unfairness to white people who want to be officers, but im just saying, in concept id be ok with that. it would eliminate a lot of problems and erase a lot of BLMs bullshit agenda


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23 minutes ago, DannyBoy said:

Here's another beauty.

Seattle City Council Member Suggests Firing White Officers In Massive Reduction Of Police Department

The Seattle City Council is facing something of a dilemma in its popular pledge to cut the police budget by 50 percent. To do so would require firing a significant number of police officers, which is also popular. The problem is that the firing would be done by seniority and many of the less senior officers are black.  The solution according to City Council member Lisa Herbold is simple: fire officers based on their race.  While that would be the definition of racial discrimination, Herbold clearly believes that it is discrimination for a good cause. The federal courts are likely to disagree.  Most notably, Herbold’s call for racial discrimination against white officers would seek to undue the work of Justice Thurgood Marshall who insisted that racial discrimination unlawful and evil regardless of the race you want to disenfranchise or discriminate against.

Seattle Police Chief Carmen Best released a video calling the plan of Herbold and others “completely reckless.” She also sent a letter to Mayor Jenny Durkan warning that dramatic cuts would require the layoff of hundreds of officers. The Police Department also warned that the firings would include many minority officers.    https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/17/seattle-city-council-member-suggests-firing-white-officers-in-massive-reduction-of-police-department/

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It's as if we are standing out on our front lawns and they just run up and throwing paint and graffitiing on our house.  They are not hiding anything about themselves.  

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15 minutes ago, Meathead said:

im fine with the entire police dept being black. no more exclusive attention on white cops and black suspects. no more excuses of racism. blacks commit the most of the worst crimes anyway, lets let blacks go track them down and bring them to justice

of course this ignores the utter unfairness to white people who want to be officers, but im just saying, in concept id be ok with that. it would eliminate a lot of problems and erase a lot of BLMs bullshit agenda

I really like this idea, but it would totally fuck up the blame game.

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18 minutes ago, Meathead said:

im fine with the entire police dept being black. no more exclusive attention on white cops and black suspects. no more excuses of racism. blacks commit the most of the worst crimes anyway, lets let blacks go track them down and bring them to justice

of course this ignores the utter unfairness to white people who want to be officers, but im just saying, in concept id be ok with that. it would eliminate a lot of problems and erase a lot of BLMs bullshit agenda

I can see your point but of course I am sure you really don't believe that.  It would be like saying,  "Yeah, go ahead and graffiti my house, I don't mind.  And you can fuck my daughter too."


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46 minutes ago, Meathead said:

im fine with the entire police dept being black. no more exclusive attention on white cops and black suspects. no more excuses of racism. blacks commit the most of the worst crimes anyway, lets let blacks go track them down and bring them to justice

of course this ignores the utter unfairness to white people who want to be officers, but im just saying, in concept id be ok with that. it would eliminate a lot of problems and erase a lot of BLMs bullshit agenda

When you explain it that way...


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33 minutes ago, DannyBoy said:

I can see your point but of course I am sure you really don't believe that.  It would be like saying,  "Yeah, go ahead and graffiti my house, I don't mind.  And you can fuck my daughter too."

im afraid to ask, but what do you mean?

i would trust black cops as much as white cops. and with proper reorganization, mainly that investigations into cops arent done by cops, id trust them even more

if youre saying that an all black police force would allow blacks to run amok, i completely disagree. maybe a few would, but the overwhelming majority would be professionals and do their jobs properly

its just a theoretical anyway. but i hope youre not saying what i think youre saying bc that would not be a complimentary look for you


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2 minutes ago, Meathead said:

im afraid to ask, but what do you mean?

i would trust black cops as much as white cops. and with proper reorganization, mainly that investigations into cops arent done by cops, id trust them even more

if youre saying that an all black police force would allow blacks to run amok, i completely disagree. maybe a few would, but the overwhelming majority would be professionals and do their jobs properly

its just a theoretical anyway. but i hope youre not saying what i think youre saying bc that would not be a complimentary look for you

No, it had nothing to do with the police force.  It has to do with the Marxist, leftist governments we have in blue states and cities.  They aren't hiding behind any pretenses now.  The ones throwing paint and graffiti are the Marxist organizations and the lying city/county/state elected officials that support socialism, democratic socialism, marxism, etc.  


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Let all these cities burn through their stupidity which is mainly the result of 1 Tier thinking. Don't ask for help later either.


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8 hours ago, DeRokerij said:

And what happens when one of these unarmed city workers, who have zero training in traffic stops, get their head blown off by someone who pulls a gun on them during the traffic stop. Do the police get called then, or just the morgue to come get the dead city worker?

What a joke.

 

3 hours ago, DannyBoy said:

No, it had nothing to do with the police force.  It has to do with the Marxist, leftist governments we have in blue states and cities.  They aren't hiding behind any pretenses now.  The ones throwing paint and graffiti are the Marxist organizations and the lying city/county/state elected officials that support socialism, democratic socialism, marxism, etc.  

The Bolsheviks. 
 

Don’t look now, but they are doing everything in their power (and not) to keep control

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