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Talbot and Parrino's roster projection.  Use the link for detailed break down of each position.  Pretty interesting.

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2020/04/buffalo-bills-way-to-early-53-man-roster-projection.html

 

QUARTERBACKS

QB - Josh Allen

QB - Matt Barkley

QB - Jake Fromm

RUNNING BACKS

RB - Devin Singletary

RB - Zack Moss

RB -T.J. Yeldon

RB - Taiwan Jones

FB - Reggie Gilliam (Talbot) Patrick DiMarco (Parrino)

WIDE RECEIVERS

WR - Stefon Diggs

WR - John Brown

WR - Cole Beasley

WR - Isaiah McKenzie

WR - Gabriel Davis

WR - Isaiah Hodgins

WR - Andre Roberts

 

TIGHT ENDS

TE - Dawson Knox

TE - Tyler Kroft

TE - Tommy Sweeney

 

OFFENSIVE LINE

T - Dion Dawkins

T - Cody Ford

T - Ty Nsekhe

T - Daryl Williams

G - Quinton Spain

G - Jon Feliciano

G - Spencer Long

G/T - Ryan Bates

C - Mitch Morse

 

DEFENSIVE LINE

DE - Jerry Hughes

DE - Mario Addison

DE - AJ Epenesa

DL - Quinton Jefferson

DT - Star Lotulelei

DT - Ed Oliver

DT - Vernon Butler

DT - Harrison Phillips

 

LINEBACKERS

LB - Tremaine Edmunds

LB - Matt Milano

LB - A.J. Klein

LB - Vosean Joseph

LB Corey Thompson

LB - Tyler Matakevich

 

DEFENSIVE BACKS

CB - Tre’Davious White

CB - Josh Norman

CB - E.J. Gaines (Talbot) Siran Neal (Parrino)

CB - Levi Wallace

CB - Taron Johnson

S - Micah Hyde

S - Jordan Poyer

S - Siran Neal (Talbot) Dean Marlowe (Parrino)

S - Jaquan Johnson

 

Special Teams

K- Tyler Bass (Talbot) Stephen Hauschka (Parrino)

P - Kaare Vedvik

LS - Reid Ferguson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Practice Squad

WR - Duke Williams

WR - Robert Foster (Talbot) WR - Nick Easley (Parrino)

TE - Nate Becker

T - Trey Adams (Talbot) QB - Davis Webb (Parrino)

G - Ike Boettger (Talbot) G - Garrett McGhin (Parrino)

DE - Darryl Johnson

DT - Vincent Taylor (Talbot) K - Tyler Bass (Parrino)

LB - Tyrel Dodson

CB - Cam Lewis

CB - Dane Jackson

RB - Christian Wade (exempt)

 

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CUTS

QB - Davis Webb (Talbot) T - Trey Adams (Parrino)

T - Brandon Walton

C - Evan Boehm

G - Marquee Harrell

FB - Patrick DiMarco (Talbot) FB - Reggie Gilliam (Parrino)

RB - Antonio Williams

WR - Nick Easley (Talbot) WR - Robert Foster (Parrino)

WR - Ray-Ray McCloud

TE - Lee Smith

TE - Jason Croom

T - Victor Salako

G -Garrett McGhin (Talbot) G - Ike Boettger (Parrino)

DE - Trent Murphy

DE - Mike Love

DE - Jonathan Woodard

S - Dean Marlowe (Talbot) CB - E.J. Gaines (Parrino)

LB - Mike Bell

LB - Del’Shawn Phillips

CB - Isaiah Brown

S - Garrett Taylor

S - Josh Thomas

P - Corey Bojorquez

K- Stephen Hauschka (Talbot) DT - Vincent Taylor (Parrino)

 

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7 WRs? I don’t see that happening. The two Isaiahs battle it out. Jefferson is going to be a DT for the Bills so I’d keep 4 DEs and Darryl  Johnson is someone I’d like to hang on to. Smith over the often inured Kroft . 

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Duke Williams will have a great training camp, and will make the team

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19 hours ago, Nuke said:

7 WRs? I don’t see that happening. The two Isaiahs battle it out. Jefferson is going to be a DT for the Bills so I’d keep 4 DEs and Darryl  Johnson is someone I’d like to hang on to. Smith over the often inured Kroft . 

I can see 7 WR's happening especially if Daboll wants to use some 4 and 5 WR sets and because Andre Roberts is the KR/PR specialist, so he has to be active every game day.

I could see Robert Foster doing Isaiah McKenzie's role on offense and play on the special team coverage units.

I agree with you about the DE's, I don't think it's a good idea to have a roster with only 3 DE's on it. Darryl Johnson or Byran Cox Jr should be the 4th DE.


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33 minutes ago, jamsim67 said:

Duke Williams will have a great training camp, and will make the team

Right now both Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins have a better chance of making the team than Duke Williams.

Duke Williams was targeted 10 times in the playoff game and only had 4 catches and dropped a TD in the endzone. He is the reason why Beane traded a 1st round pick and some lower picks for Stefon Diggs and drafted Davis and Hodgins. Beane doesn't make all those moves if he is happy with Duke Williams.


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I don't see 3 QB's on the final roster. 


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21 hours ago, Nuke said:

7 WRs? I don’t see that happening. The two Isaiahs battle it out. Jefferson is going to be a DT for the Bills so I’d keep 4 DEs and Darryl  Johnson is someone I’d like to hang on to. Smith over the often inured Kroft . 

With Roberts, it's similar to Barry Bonds.  Well, the asterisk next to the name would be imaginary, and as Jungle and I think the article(II didn't re-read it today) said, Daboll seems to have trust in Roberts enough for at least situational use.  I'm not sure if the article said it, but in red zone situations, New Isaiah could potentially really earn his bread.  Like myself and a good amount of others did last season for Duke, Hodgins is a low risk investment I plan to bee rooting for.  Despite maybe not being as fast as one might like, his size and amazing hands could have Bills fans cheering loudly multiple times this season if he makes the team.  I wouldn't want to see him get poached off the practice squad.

On a similar note, while Jungle makes a point this staff can be comfortable with 2 QBs, I'd hate to see their investment get poached simply for not beating Sir Matt in his first(and shortened) offseason.  Yes, the roster will be tight, but if he shows any potential at all it might be a wasted pick, and(maybe more importantly) opportunity, if he gets poached off the practice squad if he does well enough but falls just short of whatever the staff has as a requirement to beat out Barkley(meaning with the age/experience difference, one player might do slightly better than the other and not be selected,etc).   

I realize spots are especially tight this season, but I believe the staff is capable of following their own motto to "find a way".


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One thing maybe not everyone caught, which might excite a good number on here, is that TE Lee Smith(in the doghouse of numberous memebers on here) was predicted as a cut by both writers.  


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-Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971

 

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My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)

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1 hour ago, StraightJ said:

One thing maybe not everyone caught, which might excite a good number on here, is that TE Lee Smith(in the doghouse of numberous memebers on here) was predicted as a cut by both writers.  

It all depends if Beane and McDermott believe they can replace Lee Smith's blocking ability and his leadership with anther player or two.

The talent of Stefon Diggs is undeniable but you need to have a strong locker room with lots of veteran leadership to be able to handle a mercurial person like Diggs. Having a locker room with Lee Smith, Pat DiMarco, Star Lotulelei, Mitch Morse,  Micah Hyde, Mario Addison and Josh Allen help to manage volatile players like Diggs. This is who McDermott is talking about when he mentions his leadership council.


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4 hours ago, junglesouljah said:

I can see 7 WR's happening especially if Daboll wants to use some 4 and 5 WR sets and because Andre Roberts is the KR/PR specialist, so he has to be active every game day.

I could see Robert Foster doing Isaiah McKenzie's role on offense and play on the special team coverage units.

I agree with you about the DE's, I don't think it's a good idea to have a roster with only 3 DE's on it. Darryl Johnson or Byran Cox Jr should be the 4th DE.

Foster was the gunner on the punt team last year, wasn't he? I think that's the only way he makes this team. He's not as good as McKenzie on the jet sweeps and Allen can overthrow Davis as easy as he overthrows Foster. Some good players aren't making this team. Hopefully, Beane will work his magic on trades. If he can get a 6th for Bodine, he should be able to get something for McKenzie/Foster.

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I would not cut Trent Murphy. They need to have have another option as a rational edge IMO. Not that Murphy is a speed player but, the edge rotation will be really lacking speed if he is cut.


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10 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I would not cut Trent Murphy. They need to have have another option as a rational edge IMO. Not that Murphy is a speed player but, the edge rotation will be really lacking speed if he is cut.

I get that. But, he’s in his last year. Daryl Johnson showed a lot for a fraction of the price. Moving forward Murphy won’t be back next year, so why not go with the young guy that will. Jefferson can back up DE and DT. Murphy has some trade value. Get what you can for him and move on. Just my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, Nuke said:

I get that. But, he’s in his last year. Daryl Johnson showed a lot for a fraction of the price. Moving forward Murphy won’t be back next year, so why not go with the young guy that will. Jefferson can back up DE and DT. Murphy has some trade value. Get what you can for him and move on. Just my opinion.

This has Johnson on the practice squad, so he isn't contributing to the 53 man roster.

If its Johnson instead of Murphy I can live with that but, this only lists 3 Edge players on the 53. Hughes is the only "speed" rusher of that bunch and he isn't the same player anymore.

I'm not sold on Jefferson as a rotational edge player. Can he do it? Sure. But I'd prefer the majority of his snaps coming from DT. I think he is Oliver's main back up and pairs with him on obvious passing downs along with Epenesa.


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3 hours ago, junglesouljah said:

It all depends if Beane and McDermott believe they can replace Lee Smith's blocking ability and his leadership with anther player or two.

The talent of Stefon Diggs is undeniable but you need to have a strong locker room with lots of veteran leadership to be able to handle a mercurial person like Diggs. Having a locker room with Lee Smith, Pat DiMarco, Star Lotulelei, Mitch Morse,  Micah Hyde, Mario Addison and Josh Allen help to manage volatile players like Diggs. This is who McDermott is talking about when he mentions his leadership council.

Yeah, you're right about the blocking ability. but you know the narrative on here is that all he is known for is penalties, so I figured folks might be rejoicing the thought.   I generally like Ryan Talbot as a lesser known type of person who last week proved he can do his homeowork and create story that nobody else did with that microanalysis of who the OL likely would have been, but these guys absolved themselves with the annoying, self-deprecating title that in my semi-humble opinion I see too uses that prefix("way too early", which seems disingenous for the amount of times it is used and has lost what lustre it may have once had.  So they certainly could be wrong.  I think similarly with Croom, who is only a year older than the 2 2nd year guysand did decently with a historicly bad offense in his rookie season.  I guess I jave extra motivation for rooting for him because it could be entertaining to see the conspiracy theory about the daughter(Jessica?) if he makes the team.  

I agree with the locker room leadership thing.  I was impressed with how well Jordan Phillips was able to fit in, and the impression the team and fans made on him.  It seemed rather remarkable they'd pick up a guy who was just banned by his team, with the narrative that follows them about "process guys".  Brandon Beane seems a bt put off by it, to the point where I've seen him make the effort to explain it at least twice.  I'm curious if he is really that concerned by public perception, or maybe just annoyed, or maybe if he was doing it for some sort of practical purposes, such as maybe to let free agents who might not think they'd fit in understand the truth before they carried around an unfavorable impression in the back of their heads too long?  From my observations in real life, I have seen the synergistic attributes of groups acting as a unit(I think in ways that are not yet fully understood by science, where the end result exceeds the sum of the parts), and at times got that feel from the Patriots.  I definitely prefer the Process culture to the Patriot Way culture, though.  

When I saw the quote portion of the post you were replying to, the word "doghouse" jumped out at me.  It reminded me that I had been wondering about Robert Foster's lack of play and the ensuing mentions of him likely being in the doghouse.  I figured you mught be the best person to ask if you knew what could have caused that?  As an UDRFA, he seemed rather promising after that late season stretch, and maybe just as importantly, seem to have a good connection with Josh Allen that got the best out of his deep ball.   Now the deck is really stacked against him, even if he weren't int he doghouse.

I guess that brings up another question.  Do you know of anyone else who has allegedly been in the doghouse since Coach arrived?  


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2 hours ago, Nuke said:

Foster was the gunner on the punt team last year, wasn't he? I think that's the only way he makes this team. He's not as good as McKenzie on the jet sweeps and Allen can overthrow Davis as easy as he overthrows Foster. Some good players aren't making this team. Hopefully, Beane will work his magic on trades. If he can get a 6th for Bodine, he should be able to get something for McKenzie/Foster.

I seem to recall him doing pretty well with the role as gunner too, at least at times. Which makes me wonder even more about the doghouse comments others made last season. It' looks like it would be an uphill battle for him, and a tough competition for a number of WRs this season.

I recall offseason talk of a QB being brought in to compete with Barkley, which is why your assumption this early that it would be the rookie suprised me after  I get that it makes sense it would be advantageous for Fromm to win the competiton for multiple reasons,  but that's not a sure thing, especially with short preseaon whihch you noted.

If the folks who mentioned the weakened immune system from the lockdown helps initiate the 2nd wave(as opposed to season 2 of corona which Fauci also mentioned could become an annual tradition), there is a distinct possibility there may be no season without the need for season 2 to cut  it short and also prevent any post season.  Until people stop believing these high priest-like figures and thereby enabling their agenda, it's more advaageous for a guy like Fauci(and the vaccine fellow(Gates) whose board he is a member of, in addition to Birx who is also financially conecected to them,(and numerous others in high places), finacially incentivizing fot the dark trinity the longer they keep us locked down.

I predict there also will be a point where potentially losing a season of football or actually losing one, will take a back seat and no longer be seen as the biggest concern.  

I want to be wrong about the former concern, but as long as the reason for it(a cancelled season) has already happened, I would greatly welcome the potential side effect of canclled  leading to more people questioning some of the things even some of the media are questioning.  Someday the halls of annals of history may house an interesting story about how an otherwise amoral NFL unwittingly saved the remnants of our soveriegnty by cancelling the season and getting more folks to finally  get upset, even if they are still making more to stay at home and get drunk on state and federal unemployment(some more than double).  I also predict that situation may hurt businesses and the economy, with plenty of folks actually having more incentive to stay home(I think I recall tyhhe number Iwas over half of the workforce.  What are the odds that was something that somehow got overlooked, vs the odds of another intended portion of the process to placate and make certain the economy is crushed and currency can be reset without the public realizing ithere was going to be the mother of all bubble burts at some point, lkely sooner than later?  I guess I better stop being that is better suited elsewhere where fewer people will be at risk of seeing it and possibly finding themselves then considering things they hadn't before.

Maybe I could be more positive.  I suppose before the clock strikes midnight, it is possible Dr Faustus has a religious experience and comes clean and changes course to help the people?  Dr Faustus!! :beer:   I bid the lot of you good day!


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My 2nd Adopt A Bill is Christian Wade(he gets an exemption and doesn't require a spot) :)

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I expect they only carry 8 DE's.

Jefferson and AJ Epenesa will be DE on run downs and DT on passing downs.

Hopefully Johnson has a great camp and earns a spot but I expect he's on the practice squad. They aren't going to have 9 d-linemen active on game days so stash him on the practice squad.

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Andre Roberts is too important in the return game to cut. I dont feel safe with McKenzie back there and Hyde did nothing but catch the ball.

McKenzie is on the roster.

Foster and Williams are cut.

Higgins is on the practice squad.

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I like the idea of cutting Lee Smith and only carrying 3 TE's.

Smith shouldn't be kept around for special teams. He only had 2 tackles last year.

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16 hours ago, Nuke said:

Foster was the gunner on the punt team last year, wasn't he? I think that's the only way he makes this team. He's not as good as McKenzie on the jet sweeps and Allen can overthrow Davis as easy as he overthrows Foster. Some good players aren't making this team. Hopefully, Beane will work his magic on trades. If he can get a 6th for Bodine, he should be able to get something for McKenzie/Foster.

Robert Foster has 4.41 sec  40 yard speed, 6.9 sec 3 cone agility, at 6'1" and 200 lbs. Foster is plenty fast and quick enough to do jet sweeps.

Allen had great chemistry with Foster in 2018. 2019 was a down year for Foster as a receiver but he still contributed on special teams coverage units and had a couple of long receptions. 

Foster has to show it on the field in training camp and preseason, but IMO he can beat out McKenzie for a roster spot.


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6 hours ago, junglesouljah said:

Robert Foster has 4.41 sec  40 yard speed, 6.9 sec 3 cone agility, at 6'1" and 200 lbs. Foster is plenty fast and quick enough to do jet sweeps.

Allen had great chemistry with Foster in 2018. 2019 was a down year for Foster as a receiver but he still contributed on special teams coverage units and had a couple of long receptions. 

Foster has to show it on the field in training camp and preseason, but IMO he can beat out McKenzie for a roster spot.

Quick isn’t everything.They’ve ran it with him a couple times, he’s just not as good at it.


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On 5/2/2020 at 1:20 AM, junglesouljah said:

Right now both Gabriel Davis and Isaiah Hodgins have a better chance of making the team than Duke Williams.

Duke Williams was targeted 10 times in the playoff game and only had 4 catches and dropped a TD in the endzone. He is the reason why Beane traded a 1st round pick and some lower picks for Stefon Diggs and drafted Davis and Hodgins. Beane doesn't make all those moves if he is happy with Duke Williams.

He's the reason Beane traded away a first round pick? Really?

Targeted 10 times and only had 4 receptions. Stop trying to make it sound like Josh put every pass directly in his hands, because he didn't. In case you forgot, Josh has control issues.

And on the dropped TD pass, he wasn't standing all alone in the end zone just waiting for the pass to arrive, he had a defender on his back. IMO It was catchable, and I'm sure Williams will say he should have caught it, but it would have been a great catch.

If that had been Foster dropping the pass, or any of your other favorite receivers not named Duke, you'd be saying the same thing.

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On 5/2/2020 at 1:24 AM, junglesouljah said:

I don't see 3 QB's on the final roster. 

Then Fromm has to beat out Barkley b/c I don't think they will be able to hide him on the practice squad.

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