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I think just about everyone in the world already suspected the Chinese government was lying all along about their number of dead.

 

 

Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure

 

As authorities lifted a two-month coronavirus lockdown in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, residents said they were growing increasingly skeptical that the figure of some 2,500 deaths in the city to date was accurate.

Since the start of the week, seven large funeral homes in Wuhan have been handing out the cremated remains of around 500 people to their families every day, suggesting that far more people died than ever made the official statistics.

"It can't be right ... because the incinerators have been working round the clock, so how can so few people have died?" an Wuhan resident surnamed Zhang told RFA on Friday.

"They started distributing ashes and starting interment ceremonies on
Monday," he said.

Seven funeral homes currently serve Wuhan -- a huge conurbation of three cities: Hankou, Wuchang and Hanyang.

Social media users have been doing some basic math to figure out their daily capacity, while the news website Caixin.com reported that 5,000 urns had been delivered by a supplier to the Hankou Funeral Home in one day alone -- double the official number of deaths.

Some social media posts have estimated that all seven funeral homes in Wuhan are handing out 3,500 urns every day in total.

Funeral homes have informed families that they will try to complete cremations before the traditional grave-tending festival of Qing Ming on April 5, which would indicate a 12-day process beginning on March 23.

Such an estimate would mean that 42,000 urns would be given out during that time.


Various calculations

Another popular estimate is based on the cremation capacity of the funeral homes, which run a total of 84 furnaces with a capacity over 24 hours of 1,560 urns city-wide, assuming that one cremation takes one hour.

This calculation results in an estimated 46,800 deaths.

A resident of Hubei province, of which Wuhan is the capital, said most people there now believe that more than 40,000 people died in the city before and during the lockdown.

"Maybe the authorities are gradually releasing the real figures, intentionally or unintentionally, so that people will gradually come to accept the reality," the resident, who gave only his surname Mao, said.

A source close to the provincial civil affairs bureau said many people had died at home, without being diagnosed with, or treated for, COVID-19.

The source said any talk of the true number of deaths in Wuhan was very sensitive, but that the authorities do likely know the real figure.

"Every funeral home reports data on cremations directly to the authorities twice daily," the source said. "This means that each funeral home only knows how many cremations it has conducted, but not the situation at the other funeral homes."

The source said Wuhan saw 28,000 cremations in the space of a single month, suggesting that the online estimates over a two-and-a-half month period weren't excessive.

Wuhan resident Sun Linan said relatives of those who died are now forming long lines outside funeral homes to collect their loved ones' ashes.

"It has already begun," Sun said on Thursday. "There were people lining up in Biandanshan Cemetery yesterday, and a lot of people forming lines today at Hankou Funeral Home."


Hush money

Wuhan resident Chen Yaohui told RFA that city officials have been handing out 3,000 yuan in "funeral allowances" to the families of the dead in exchange for their silence.

"There have been a lot of funerals in the past few days, and the authorities are handing out 3,000 yuan in hush money to families who get their loved ones' remains laid to rest ahead of Qing Ming," he said, in a reference to the traditional grave tending festival on April 5.

"It's to stop them keening [a traditional expression of grief]; nobody's allowed to keen after Qing Ming has passed," Chen said.

The son of deceased COVID-10 patient Hu Aizhen said he had been told to collect his mother's ashes by the local neighborhood committee.

"The local committee told me they are now handling funerals, but I don't want to do it right now," the man, surnamed Ding, told RFA.

"There are too many people doing it right now."

Chen said nobody in the city believes the official death toll.

"The official number of deaths was 2,500 people ... but before the epidemic began, the city's crematoriums typically cremated around 220 people a day," he said.

"But during the epidemic, they transferred cremation workers from around China to Wuhan keep cremate bodies around the clock," he said.

A resident surnamed Gao said the city's seven crematoriums should have a capacity of around 2,000 bodies a day if they worked around the clock.

"Anyone looking at that figure will realize, anyone with any ability to think," Gao said. "What are they talking about [2,535] people?"

"Seven crematoriums could get through more than that [in a single day]."

 

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html

 

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Viral Chernobyl.

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I don't think there's much doubt that the numbers aren't real. Freaking liars. 


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I'm not surprised.  We're talking about Commies here.  Remember when the Soviets swore up and down that only 32 people died in the Chernobyl disaster? Now we're getting the same crap out of China.  :niterider:

 

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5 minutes ago, jc856 said:

Makes me wonder, how’s N. Korea doing? 

Zero cases!  Fat Kim has everything in order! :niterider:

 


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35 minutes ago, Woody said:

Zero cases!  Fat Kim has everything in order! :niterider:

Those poor people are a couple rations of rice from dying to begin with. 

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Just now, jc856 said:

Those poor people are a couple rations of rice from dying to begin with. 

It's a closed off nation. They probably do have zero cases


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4 minutes ago, HipKat said:

It's a closed off nation. They probably do have zero cases

It’s not that closed off. Diplomats go back and forth from China all the time. Fuel supplies, etc, all from China

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On 3/31/2020 at 4:50 PM, Woody said:

Zero cases!  Fat Kim has everything in order! :niterider:

Actually if it were zero cases there would be an actual reasom, and you might notice it having something to do with russia too, and a bunch of the countries not that effected.  I dont watch the tv, so I don't know if they spoken on those counties and the common links?


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Yeah, those countries manipulate and censor the information that comes out of them. Duhhhhh


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32 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

Actually if it were zero cases there would be an actual reasom, and you might notice it having something to do with russia too, and a bunch of the countries not that effected.  I dont watch the tv, so I don't know if they spoken on those counties and the common links?

All I know is they're lying.  China sent North Korea $900B in Corona aid about a week ago, yet they still claim there are zero cases.  :niterider:

 

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34 minutes ago, Woody said:

 


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https://oathkeepers.org/about/

 

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30 minutes ago, Woody said:

All I know is they're lying.  China sent North Korea $900B in Corona aid about a week ago, yet they still claim there are zero cases.  :niterider:

do you have Russias stats?  I read an article maybe a coople of days and the usual outsider hat doesnt get it questioned....but even crummy cnn and who who want to buid you uo....they cibfirm,,,,any new russia?


"I don't think I'm easy to talk about. I've got a very irregular head. And I'm not anything that you think I am anyway".

-Syd Barrett, founder of Pink Floyd. Rolling Stone, December 1971

 

https://oathkeepers.org/about/

 

Europa: The last Battle is possibly the most useful documentary in existence in terms of understanding how society came to be like it currently is: https://search.bitchute.com/renderer?use=bitchute-json&name=Search&login=bcadmin&key=7ea2d72b62aa4f762cc5a348ef6642b8&query=Europa+The+Last+Battle

 

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38 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

do you have Russias stats?  I read an article maybe a coople of days and the usual outsider hat doesnt get it questioned....but even crummy cnn and who who want to buid you uo....they cibfirm,,,,any new russia?

According to Bing they have 4,731 cases, 43 deaths and 333 recovered.  Another commie country that has everything under control!  :niterider:

 


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29 minutes ago, Woody said:

According to Bing they have 4,731 cases, 43 deaths and 333 recovered.  Another commie country that has everything under control!  :niterider:

Come on Woody...you know full well they are no longer Communists. :)   They have a semi-Presidential republic, and it would not shock me if we're closer to communism than them.  Certainly we're more in the grasp of globalists.  :(  

You may find this CNN article from a few weeks ago interesting.  Gives some insight, still it doesn't cover the most important difference...a certain correlation:

I posted this elsewhere as well(a couple of weeks old, stunning none the less).   Maybe some folks will be able to figure out what is different(besides just having one of the most effectively leaders of the era), different from Russia and the nations with far worse statisitics.  I mean they have 2 agencies with a known agenda of inflation actually backing their stats, so theyre the real deal.  

 

 

Moscow (CNN)Russian President Vladimir Putin said this week his country managed to stop the mass spread of coronavirus -- and that the situation was "under control," thanks to early and aggressive measures to keep more people from getting the disease.

Does Russia have coronavirus under control? According to information released by Russian officials, Putin's strategy seems to have worked. The number of confirmed Russian coronavirus cases is surprisingly low, despite Russia sharing a lengthy border with China and recording its first case back in January.
The numbers are picking up, but Russia -- a country of 146 million people -- has fewer confirmed cases than Luxembourg, with just 253 people infected. Luxembourg, by contrast, has a population of just 628,000, according to the CIA World Factbook, and by Saturday had reported 670 coronavirus cases with eight deaths.
Russia's early response measures -- such as shutting down its 2,600-mile border with China as early as January 30, and setting up quarantine zones -- may have contributed to the delay of a full-blown outbreak, some experts say.
 
 
Russian President Vladimir Putin responded to criticism over the number of recorded cases.
 
Russian President Vladimir Putin responded to criticism over the number of recorded cases.

A strong record on testing

"The director-general of WHO said 'test, test, test,'" Dr. Melita Vujnovic, the World Health Organization's representative in Russia, told CNN Thursday. "Well, Russia started that literally at the end of January."
Vujnovic said Russia also took a broader set of measures in addition to testing.
"Testing and identification of cases, tracing contacts, isolation, these are all measures that WHO proposes and recommends, and they were in place all the time," she said. "And the social distancing is the second component that really also started relatively early."
Rospotrebnadzor, Russia's state consumer watchdog, said Saturday that it had run more than 156,000 coronavirus tests in total. By comparison, according to CDC figures, the United States only picked up the pace in testing at the beginning of March, while Russia says it has been testing en masse since early February, including in airports, focusing on travelers from Iran, China, and South Korea.
That's not to say there were no holes in Russia's defenses. Russia didn't start testing those arriving from Italy or other badly affected EU countries immediately, limiting its controls for arrivals from Europe to taking temperatures and imposing two-week quarantines. The majority of the coronavirus cases reported in Russia were brought from Italy, according to health officials.

Distrust among the population

People have still been crowding the Moscow metro system.
 
People have still been crowding the Moscow metro system.
Still, Russia contends with widespread public skepticism, a legacy of its Soviet past. On social media, Russians have raised questions referring to their country's poor track record of transparency, such as the coverup around the Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe in 1986 and the country's botched response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the 1980s.
Authorities have moved swiftly to counter what they see as misinformation. In early March, Russia's Federal Security Service and internet watchdog moved to take down a viral post claiming the real number of coronavirus cases was 20,000 and that the Russian government was covering it up. Facebook and Instagram users in Russia then started to see coronavirus awareness alerts linking to Rospotrebnadzor's official website.
News reports of shortages in protective equipment have also fueled skepticism. And some experts have raised doubts about the reliability of Russia's testing system, which depends on a single laboratory. A report by PCR.News, a media outlet for medics and healthcare professionals, pointed out that the only approved coronavirus testing system, produced by Vector in Novosibirsk, has a lower sensitivity than other virus tests, raising concerns about false negatives.
David Berov, the first confirmed coronavirus patient in Moscow, wrote on Instagram that his second test showed a negative result, while the first and third tested positive for coronavirus.
"The virus was confirmed in my third test, it was not seen in my blood but was in my saliva," Berov wrote on March 5. "As I was told, they could barely see it so that's why they were in doubt for so long."
Vector did not respond to a request for comment. The Russian branch of the WHO, however, told CNN it received the specifications for the Vector test kits and the laboratory had been placed on the list of approved institutions used to confirm the coronavirus.

Cover-up allegations rebutted by Kremlin and the WHO

Putin has put together a coronavirus information center in Moscow, pictured here.
 
Putin has put together a coronavirus information center in Moscow, pictured here.
Anastasia Vasilyeva, a doctor for Russian opposition figure Alexey Navalny and leader of the Alliance of Doctors union, made headlines with a series of videos in which she claims the authorities are covering up real coronavirus numbers by using pneumonia and acute respiratory infection as a diagnosis.
"You see they said the first coronavirus patient that died, that the cause of death was thrombosis," Vasilyeva told CNN. "That's obvious, nobody dies from coronavirus itself, they die from the complications, so it's very easy to manipulate this."
Moscow health officials denied the accusation and said they were testing pneumonia patients for coronavirus. The WHO's Dr. Vujnovic also was skeptical about Vasilyeva's claim.
"If there was a hidden, unrecognized burden somewhere it would be seen in these [pneumonia] reports," she said. "So I do not believe this is happening, which does not say that you might not see an increase of cases in the next period, because we have seen that in many countries."
Putin himself addressed the concerns about the statistics Wednesday, saying the government might not have the full picture but is not covering up the numbers.
"Here is the thing: the authorities may not possess the full information, because people a) sometimes do not report it, b) they themselves don't know that they are sick, and the latent period is very long," he said in a televised meeting. "But everything that is issued ... by the Ministry of Health is all objective information."
This week the numbers have surged, with Russia adding 30 to 50 cases every day, and the count will most likely continue its upward trajectory as Russia expands its testing. Nevertheless, the local representative for the WHO says Russia is still doing relatively well, as the country tracks cases with epidemiological links to travel or family transmission. On Saturday morning, Rospotrebnadzor released a figure potentially more concerning than the number of confirmed cases -- 36,540 people are being monitored for possible coronavirus.
Meanwhile, the government moved to impose more sweeping measures, canceling public events and closing Russia's borders to foreigners, with some exceptions. But politics as usual continues under Putin: the President has signed a decree scheduling a nationwide referendum on constitutional amendments that could see him stay in power till 2036 on April 22. The authorities have vowed to monitor coronavirus developments but so far have not changed the date.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/europe/putin-coronavirus-russia-intl/index.html


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On 3/31/2020 at 1:22 PM, HipKat said:

I don’t know why anybody would think China is going to be honest. Disinformation is from what they’re all about

China has state run media. They censorship speech. They killed the scientist that discovered Covid 19 and tried to cover it up. Of course they are not going to be honest.

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2 minutes ago, junglesouljah said:

China has state run media. They censorship speech. They killed the scientist that discovered Covid 19 and tried to cover it up. Of course they are not going to be honest.

lol and how is that different from here? all nwo management.

 

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42 minutes ago, thinwhiteduke said:

lol and how is that different from here? all nwo management.

Indeed....Indeed.  That's why it's "worse", because of the illusion of freedom....the cage where you can not see the bars.  If you didn't hate Stefan Mol. so much, I'd post "the story of your enslavement" for folks who haven't seen it yet.  There's a lot of basic stuff out there folks could benefit from.

But yeah...insidious stuff because folks have no idea.  Most don't know of Edward Bernays, and I don't even want to think about how advanced the PR/manipulation techniques have gone since those days man.

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