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5 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Wow.  Jungle is quite upset.  Unleashing more ridiculous Trump hate should get him back to the base line.

Trump not listening to his top scientist has cost American people there lives. If you are not upset about Trump's inaction making this crisis worse then you are a terrible person.

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L*t is a loser

 

My adapt a Bill is Brandon Beane.

 

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1 hour ago, junglesouljah said:

Trump mocking Romney who has gotten Covid 19 is shows a lot of compassion and empathy according to you and your grand wisdom.

Who cares?

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1 hour ago, junglesouljah said:

Trump not listening to his top scientist has cost American people there lives. If you are not upset about Trump's inaction making this crisis worse then you are a terrible person.

Yes!  Trump only consults witch doctors, rich buddies and quija boards!  LOL.  Quit being so dishonest.  If Trump says right, you say left.  And on and on and on.  It's quite obvious there's nothing the man can do right in your eyes.  That makes your point of view not only entirely predictable, but a joke as well.  End of story.

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1 hour ago, junglesouljah said:

Trump not listening to his top scientist has cost American people there lives. If you are not upset about Trump's inaction making this crisis worse then you are a terrible person.

Complete and total horse shit.  You should be embarrassed.  Are you that blind and so full of hatred?  Sheesh.  Comical.

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1 hour ago, junglesouljah said:

Trump not listening to his top scientist has cost American people there lives. If you are not upset about Trump's inaction making this crisis worse then you are a terrible person.

First, there is no actual crisis. 

Second,  if Trump IS actually responsible  for/by making decisions that others need to obey and that is killing people. It would in fact prove the conspiracy  theorists  right and you wrong. 

So..either Trump is simply  reading a script and told what to say, while others carry out  actions, whether they coincide with what Trump says or not.

Or...Trump  IS directly  responsible  for bad things happening to people. 

Both equal a successful  elitist  conspiracy  action. 

 

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19 hours ago, junglesouljah said:

I don't like Romney either, but I'm not going to mock him for getting sick.

Trump on the other hand doesn't give a fuck about anyone.

Not that I advocate Trump's take on Romney but you have to admit the man stabbed him in the back big time. If you remember during the 2016 campaign Romney got up and gave a very negative speech about then candidate Trump calling him a con man and everything else. Then Trump actually interviewed him for a key admin position after he won. When he didn't get a spot he ran for Senator in Utah and asked for Trump's endorsement, which he gave him, allowing him to get enough votes to be elected. Then Trump gets impeached and Romney not only advocated for more witnesses but voted yes on one of the charges. Clearly he has no loyalty to someone he asked favors from.

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2 hours ago, junglesouljah said:

Trump not listening to his top scientist has cost American people there lives. If you are not upset about Trump's inaction making this crisis worse then you are a terrible person.

Here's a top scientist for you.

Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: 'We're going to be fine'

 

Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.

Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.

While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don't support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.

"What we need is to control the panic," he said. In the grand scheme, "we're going to be fine."

Here's what Levitt noticed in China: On Jan. 31, the country had 46 new deaths due to the novel coronavirus, compared with 42 new deaths the day before.

Although the number of daily deaths had increased, the rate of that increase had begun to ease off. In his view, the fact that new cases were being identified at a slower rate was more telling than the number of new cases itself. It was an early sign that the trajectory of the outbreak had shifted.

Think of the outbreak as a car racing down an open highway, he said. Although the car is still gaining speed, it's not accelerating as rapidly as before.

“This suggests that the rate of increase in the number of deaths will slow down even more over the next week,” Levitt wrote in a report he sent to friends Feb. 1 that was widely shared on Chinese social media. And soon, he predicted, the number of deaths would be decreasing every day.

 

Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus' rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.

This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday.

Now Levitt, who received the 2013 Nobel Prize in chemistry for developing complex models of chemical systems, is seeing similar turning points in other nations, even those that did not instill the draconian isolation measures that China did.

He analyzed data from 78 countries that reported more than 50 newcases of COVID-19 every day and sees "signs of recovery" in many of them. He's not focusing on the total number ofcases in a country, but on the number of new cases identified every day — and, especially, on the change in that number from one day to the next.

"Numbers are still noisy, but there are clear signs of slowed growth."

In South Korea, for example, newly confirmed cases are being added to the country's total each day, but the daily tally has dropped in recent weeks, remaining below 200. That suggests the outbreak there may be winding down.

In Iran, the number of newly confirmed COVID-19 cases per day remained relatively flat last week, going from 1,053 last Monday to 1,028 on Sunday. Although that's still a lot of new cases, Levitt said, the pattern suggests the outbreak there "is past the halfway mark."

Italy, on the other hand, looks like it's still on the upswing. In that country, the number of newly confirmed cases increased on most days this past week.

In places that have managed to recover from an initial outbreak, officials must still contend with the fact that the coronavirus may return. China is now fighting to stop new waves of infection coming in from places where the virus is spreading out of control. Other countries are bound to face the same problem.

Levitt acknowledges that his figures are messy and that the official case counts in many areas are too low because testing is spotty. But even with incomplete data, "a consistent decline means there's some factor at work that is not just noise in the numbers," he said.

In other words, as long as the reasons for the inaccurate case counts remain the same, it's still useful to compare them from one day to the next.

The trajectory of deaths backs up his findings, he said, since it follows the same basic trends as the new confirmed cases. So do data from outbreaks in confined environments, such as the one on the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Out of 3,711 people on board, 712 were infected, and eight died.

This unintended experiment in coronavirus spread will help researchers estimate the number of fatalities that would occur in a fully infected population, Levitt said. For instance, the Diamond Princess data allowed him to estimate that being exposed to the new coronavirus doubles a person's risk of dying in the next two months. Most people have an extremely low risk of death in a two-month period, so that risk remains extremely low even when doubled.

Nicholas Reich, a biostatistician at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, said the analysis was thought-provoking, if nothing else.

"Time will tell if Levitt's predictions are correct," Reich said. "I do think that having a wide diversity of experts bringing their perspectives to the table will help decision-makers navigate the very tricky decisions they will be facing in the upcoming weeks and months."

Levitt said he's in sync with those calling for strong measures to fight the outbreak. The social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it, and a vaccine is still many months away. "This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies," he said.

Getting vaccinated against the flu is important, too, because a coronavirus outbreak that strikes in the middle of a flu epidemic is much more likely to overwhelm hospitals and increases the odds that the coronavirus goes undetected. This was probably a factor in Italy, a country with a strong anti-vaccine movement, he said.

But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.

Levitt fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.

The virus can grow exponentially only when it is undetected and no one is acting to control it, Levitt said. That's what happened in South Korea last month, when it ripped through a closed-off cult that refused to report the illness.

"People need to be considered heroes for announcing they have this virus," he said.

 

The goal needs to be better early detection — not just through testing but perhaps with body-temperature surveillance, which China is implementing — and immediate social isolation.

While the COVID-19 fatality rate appears to be significantly higher than that of the flu, Levitt says it is, quite simply put, "not the end of the world."

"The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be," he said.

Dr. Loren Miller, a physician and infectious diseases researcher at the Lundquist Institute for Biomedical Innovation at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said it's premature to draw any conclusions — either rosy or bleak — about the course the pandemic will take.

"There's a lot of uncertainty right now," he said. "In China they nipped it in the bud in the nick of time. In the U.S. we might have, or we might not have. We just don't know."

 

 

 


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"But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell... We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here."

 

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Lol oh jeez.. Biden isn't sick ( with  Corona). Is that all you people  do? Read something  and immediately  believe  it?

 

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26 minutes ago, thinwhiteduke said:

Lol oh jeez.. Biden isn't sick ( with  Corona). Is that all you people  do? Read something  and immediately  believe  it?

Talking to me?  I just posted an article about the latest Biden gaffes.

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2 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Talking to me?  I just posted an article about the latest Biden gaffes.

I just saw something  implying he was sick and assumed it ment it's thought  he has  Corona 

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Day 4 of the lockdown and the Central Illinois area could care less. Walmart, Menards, Kroger - all lots full, like any other Wednesday. Traffic is lighter but steady in the areas I worked today. I swear, these people are a case study in being careless, selfish letdowns. They live up to my accusation that people just don't care about each other.

And back home in Buffalo, the streets are empty, Niagara Falls is deserted and the Grocery stores have red tape every 6 feet so people know how far to stay apart.


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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1 minute ago, thinwhiteduke said:

I just saw something  implying he was sick and assumed it ment it's thought  he has  Corona 

LOL.  I just enjoyed seeing and reading about how the cat can't string two sentences together.

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Effects of chloroquine on viral infections: an old drug against today's diseases (November 2003)

Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline known since 1934. Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections. Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses. Its best-studied effects are those against HIV replication, which are being tested in clinical trials. Moreover, chloroquine has immunomodulatory effects, suppressing the production/release of tumour necrosis factor α and interleukin 6, which mediate the inflammatory complications of several viral diseases. We review the available information on the effects of chloroquine on viral infections, raising the question of whether this old drug may experience a revival in the clinical management of viral diseases such as AIDS and severe acute respiratory syndrome, which afflict mankind in the era of globalisation.

Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline that has been known since 1934. Specifically synthesised to be used as an antimalarial agent, chloroquine was subsequently shown to have immunomodulatory properties that have encouraged its application in the treatment of autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis. For this specific pathology, chloroquine and its hydroxy-analogue hydroxychloroquine have represented a valid contribution to the available pharmacological tools, since they proved able to slow down the progress of the disease while showing limited toxicity.1


Unfortunately, chloroquine is being gradually dismissed from antimalarial therapy and prophylaxis, due to the continuous emergence of chloroquine-resistant Plasmodium falciparum strains. However, the tolerability, low cost, and immunomodulatory properties of chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine are associated with biochemical effects that suggest a potential use in viral infections, some of whose symptoms may result from the inflammatory response. We raise the question of whether this old drug whose parent compound, quinine, was isolated in the late 19th century from the bark of the tropical cinchona tree, may experience a revival in the clinical management of viral diseases of the era of globalisation.


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"But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell... We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here."

 

- Howard Beale, Network

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1 hour ago, HipKat said:

Day 4 of the lockdown and the Central Illinois area could care less. Walmart, Menards, Kroger - all lots full, like any other Wednesday. Traffic is lighter but steady in the areas I worked today. I swear, these people are a case study in being careless, selfish letdowns. They live up to my accusation that people just don't care about each other.

And back home in Buffalo, the streets are empty, Niagara Falls is deserted and the Grocery stores have red tape every 6 feet so people know how far to stay apart.

 

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Just now, jc856 said:

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That’s true, no shortage of fresh food

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“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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15 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

The Rabid Carrot wants to sue for ad telling the truth.  Can't make shit like this up!

MSNBC sucks.  All Trump hate all the time.  Shameful.  Morning Joe is a douchebag.  Hope you cats are ready for four more years of "rabid carrot".

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22 hours ago, HipKat said:

Day 4 of the lockdown and the Central Illinois area could care less. Walmart, Menards, Kroger - all lots full, like any other Wednesday. Traffic is lighter but steady in the areas I worked today. I swear, these people are a case study in being careless, selfish letdowns. They live up to my accusation that people just don't care about each other.

Sounds like San Antonio.  Down here people see "Shelter in Place" as a green light to go out and do whatever.  :niterider:

 

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Fuck this team

I'll tie a frying pan to my ass so you hurt your penis, you ****ing homo!

Shut the fuck up dark cloud pussy

Anyone who is foolish enough to not be a Buffalo Bills fan can go f*ck themselves with a wooden shovel handle.

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also, all that shit in your signature is beyond annoying. just like you.

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12 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

MSNBC sucks.  All Trump hate all the time.  Shameful.  Morning Joe is a douchebag.  Hope you cats are ready for four more years of "rabid carrot".

That video has no hate................it's airing all the audio of what Trump has said.  His cult following are the real douchebags!

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12 minutes ago, 212frawk said:

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Such good taste.  Sure, Trump's fault.  All Trump's fault.  Trump always wrong.  What's your big solution, guy?  Just complaints and criticism from you people, no solutions EVER.  Are you down with crashing the economy?  That would make you a loser.  Hate to tell you fucks, but the economy is kind of important.  A balance on what to do had better be figured out.  Trump seems to be one of the few thinking straight.  I don't want to spend the rest of my life standing in a soup kitchen line.  I think that's exactly what some of you assholes want.  ANYTHING to bring down the evil Trump, right?  Fuck you.

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2 minutes ago, BrewMan said:

That video has no hate................it's airing all the audio of what Trump has said.  His cult following are the real douchebags!

Most of it out of context over a lengthy number of weeks.  Who cares?  What's your solution, douche?  

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