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34 minutes ago, rcas0308 said:

Worship Trump huh. Lol I never mentioned Trump today until you chimed in Sally. You know you would suck on Trumps toes if he asked you to, you can’t get the guy out of your mind. You are way too obsessed.

Upon further review...Actually half true I mentioned it wasn’t Trump related media 

They say what you focus on, you become.  Sometimes you hear stories of a preacher who becomes so possessed with preaching against something like homosexuality, that sadly it consumes him and he becomes one, or at least delves into it.  The good news with that analogy is that Hip may become a fan of the Constitution, and maybe even Trump, and reject what the mainstream establishment media has programmed him to be.  :)

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1 hour ago, StraightJ said:

Basket of deplorables?   You have a vile hatred for half the country?  If so, does that not seem troubling to you?!?   I'm asking sincerely.....it truly makes TDS seem like a condition that could be in the DSM-V that diagnoses disorders.  This isn't Star Wars...I dont want to be the Emperor or Darth Vader or whomever and tell you to let your hate consume you, like it clearly is.  It's like the Paint It Black song, or Pearl Jam's song Black....it seems like your whole filter is seeing black, and that can't be an enjoyable way to live, even if it were "only" until January(and even if Trump were to lose, his supporters aren't going to suddenly vanish in some sort of rapture! lol).  

I don't hate half the country. I hate that less than half the country (40%, unwavering, is not half the  country) has been sucked into this delusion and/or that they've been exposed as the subhumans that they are


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55 minutes ago, rcas0308 said:

Worship Trump huh. Lol I never mentioned Trump today until you chimed in Sally. You know you would suck on Trumps toes if he asked you to, you can’t get the guy out of your mind. You are way too obsessed.

Upon further review...Actually half true I mentioned it wasn’t Trump related media 

I'm sorry, do you seriously think I have any desire to argue with you? You can stop trying to bait me into one. 


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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7 minutes ago, HipKat said:

I don't hate half the country. I hate that less than half the country (40%, unwavering, is not half the  country) has been sucked into this delusion and/or that they've been exposed as the subhumans that they are

So even if your 40% numbers turn out to be correct(which I'd bet cash money they won't), you think that hating 40% of the country is a good thing?  Or even an acceptable thing?  And instead you focus on the relative minutia of the guessing the exact percentage? lol...even you must see the comedic value in that!


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14 minutes ago, HipKat said:

I'm sorry, do you seriously think I have any desire to argue with you? You can stop trying to bait me into one. 

Now you are trying to be the victim lol okay.. you hit me up first 

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8 minutes ago, StraightJ said:

So even if your 40% numbers turn out to be correct(which I'd bet cash money they won't), you think that hating 40% of the country is a good thing?  Or even an acceptable thing?  And instead you focus on the relative minutia of the guessing the exact percentage? lol...even you must see the comedic value in that!

I’m not focusing on it, you are. 40% is what his approval rate has been since he took office. It has barely wavered from 40%. You think that you need to argue this point. And no, I don’t think it’s a problem to hate 40% of the country if they support the enemy

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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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4 minutes ago, HipKat said:

I’m not focusing on it, you are. 40% is what his approval rate has been since he took office. It has barely wavered from 40%. You think that you need to argue this point. And no, I don’t think it’s a problem to hate 40% of the country if they support the enemy

Some folks might find that statement disturbing.

Either way, congrats, you managed to shift focus from the major threat Denmark is facing into another Trump hatred thread.  ugh  :(

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6 hours ago, StraightJ said:

Some folks might find that statement disturbing.

Either way, congrats, you managed to shift focus from the major threat Denmark is facing into another Trump hatred thread.  ugh  :(

Good, then my work is done here


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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19 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

The fact is, in a country with huge social programs like the Scandinavian countries mentioned you absolutely cannot have a huge influx of immigrants that aren't producing anything. In Sweden the unemployment rate for foreign born men is 18.5%, 23.7% in Finland, and 9% in Denmark not to mention the worst offenders in Greece and Spain. I honestly think the numbers are fudged and haven't caught up to the recent flow of immigrants over the past few years. Sweden has already gone through the process of raising the retirement age which might save them money in the short term but eventually benefits will have to be cut before the whole thing implodes. 

So talk about these countries all you want but let's see how it all turns out in the next decade. Remember not too long ago Bernie was extolling Venezuela and look at them now.

Scandinavia is not Venezuela.  The Scandinavian countries have a record of many decades of prosperity.  Why not be honest and admit that your latest dire warning of an imminent collapse of the Scandinavian countries is wishful thinking on your part?

 

Your hero Donald plays this same game.  Remember how he lied about a non-existent terror attack in Sweden?

 

Swedes are baffled and amused by Donald Trump’s warning about the terror “last night in Sweden”

 

 

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 I honestly think the numbers are fudged and haven't caught up to the recent flow of immigrants over the past few years.

Well then, if you honestly think this, Sack, then that should be good enough for everyone. Let's just call it a fact.

As I've said to you before, I'm no fan of forced multi-culturalism.  If it were up to me, I wouldn't allow any or extremely few people from Third World countries into the EU. 

But if your concern is with the non-white hordes in Scandinavia, perhaps it's misguided. As of 2018, 86.67% of Denmark's population was of Danish origin. Immigrants (this includes whites from the EU) make up 10.23% and their descendants 3.09%.*  Except for Sweden, where the percentage of immigrants is higher, the other Scandinavian countries presumably have similar statistics. 

 

Now let's look at the US, where just 73% of the population was white as of 2017. And if we're talking about non-Hispanic whites, then the number drops to 60.7%.** 

 

So, based on this, shouldn't you be more worried about the US collapsing than Scandinavian countries?

 

* Wikipedia page on Denmark, demographics section

** Wikipedia page on USA, demographics section

 

 

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2 hours ago, Professor Pigworth said:

Scandinavia is not Venezuela.  The Scandinavian countries have a record of many decades of prosperity.  Why not be honest and admit that your latest dire warning of an imminent collapse of the Scandinavian countries is wishful thinking on your part?

Your hero Donald plays this same game.  Remember how he lied about a non-existent terror attack in Sweden?

Swedes are baffled and amused by Donald Trump’s warning about the terror “last night in Sweden”

Well then, if you honestly think this, Sack, then that should be good enough for everyone. Let's just call it a fact.

As I've said to you before, I'm no fan of forced multi-culturalism.  If it were up to me, I wouldn't allow any or extremely few people from Third World countries into the EU. 

But if your concern is with the non-white hordes in Scandinavia, perhaps it's misguided. As of 2018, 86.67% of Denmark's population was of Danish origin. Immigrants (this includes whites from the EU) make up 10.23% and their descendants 3.09%.*  Except for Sweden, where the percentage of immigrants is higher, the other Scandinavian countries presumably have similar statistics. 

Now let's look at the US, where just 73% of the population was white as of 2017. And if we're talking about non-Hispanic whites, then the number drops to 60.7%.** 

So, based on this, shouldn't you be more worried about the US collapsing than Scandinavian countries?

* Wikipedia page on Denmark, demographics section

** Wikipedia page on USA, demographics section

That was a pretty big word salad you put up there bud. First, yes I remember the Trump flub. You classify it as a lie but obviously he must have been thinking of something else because a news story like that would be easy to verify.

 

Now, in your second argument you pivoted from my initial premise that non-producers cannot be accepted in countries with large social programs to a racial one. Essentially my premise was purely economics while yours is mostly cultural which could be debated on a whole other thread. Sticking with the economic argument I fail to see how a growing population with higher numbers of the unemployed can keep sustaining the compensation of these programs over a prolonged period of time. And you know what? I'm not the only person noticing it. The Nordic people themselves notice this as well as many publications that aren't exclusively right leaning. Here's one from Reuters:

Danes make welfare a hot election issue as cracks show in Nordic model

The Nordic welfare model, long the envy of many across the world seeking an egalitarian utopia, is creaking.

 

Aging populations have led to politicians across the region chipping away at the generous cradle-to-grave welfare state for years. In Denmark, next week’s election could prove a turning point as frustrated voters say: No more.

Danes, like citizens of other Nordic nations, have largely been happy to shell out some of the highest taxes in the world, seeing them as a price worth paying for universal healthcare, education and elderly services.

However, spending cuts by successive governments to reduce the public deficit have led to more people paying out of their own pockets for what used to be free.

“We pay very high taxes in Denmark, and that’s alright. But in return, I think we can demand a certain service,” said pensioner Sonja Blytsoe.

Her 92-year old mother, who has dementia, was told by her local council in the central Danish town of Assens that the cleaning of her small apartment at a nursing home would be almost halved to 10 times a year.

Her mother, who lives off her state pension of 9,000 Danish crowns ($1,350) per month, could not afford to pay the roughly 1,000 crowns a month for a private cleaning firm, Blytsoe said.

In an illustration of the simmering public anger at such cuts, the council’s move sparked an outcry on social media that prompted the prime minister to comment on the case in parliament and the decision to be reversed.

The erosion of the welfare state has now become a defining issue in the June 5 general election in a country where people hand over an average 36% of their personal income to the state each month.

It's a great article but the conclusion that there aren't enough people is off the mark, if anything you'd need more qualified people and not any old bodies from the 3rd World thrown in there.

 

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15 hours ago, SackMan518 said:

That was a pretty big word salad you put up there bud. First, yes I remember the Trump flub. You classify it as a lie but obviously he must have been thinking of something else because a news story like that would be easy to verify.

Now, in your second argument you pivoted from my initial premise that non-producers cannot be accepted in countries with large social programs to a racial one. Essentially my premise was purely economics while yours is mostly cultural which could be debated on a whole other thread. Sticking with the economic argument I fail to see how a growing population with higher numbers of the unemployed can keep sustaining the compensation of these programs over a prolonged period of time. And you know what? I'm not the only person noticing it. The Nordic people themselves notice this as well as many publications that aren't exclusively right leaning. Here's one from Reuters:

Danes make welfare a hot election issue as cracks show in Nordic model

The Nordic welfare model, long the envy of many across the world seeking an egalitarian utopia, is creaking.

Aging populations have led to politicians across the region chipping away at the generous cradle-to-grave welfare state for years. In Denmark, next week’s election could prove a turning point as frustrated voters say: No more.

Danes, like citizens of other Nordic nations, have largely been happy to shell out some of the highest taxes in the world, seeing them as a price worth paying for universal healthcare, education and elderly services.

However, spending cuts by successive governments to reduce the public deficit have led to more people paying out of their own pockets for what used to be free.

“We pay very high taxes in Denmark, and that’s alright. But in return, I think we can demand a certain service,” said pensioner Sonja Blytsoe.

Her 92-year old mother, who has dementia, was told by her local council in the central Danish town of Assens that the cleaning of her small apartment at a nursing home would be almost halved to 10 times a year.

Her mother, who lives off her state pension of 9,000 Danish crowns ($1,350) per month, could not afford to pay the roughly 1,000 crowns a month for a private cleaning firm, Blytsoe said.

In an illustration of the simmering public anger at such cuts, the council’s move sparked an outcry on social media that prompted the prime minister to comment on the case in parliament and the decision to be reversed.

The erosion of the welfare state has now become a defining issue in the June 5 general election in a country where people hand over an average 36% of their personal income to the state each month.

It's a great article but the conclusion that there aren't enough people is off the mark, if anything you'd need more qualified people and not any old bodies from the 3rd World thrown in there.

If we're talking about economics, then I don't actually disagree that the Nordic welfare model is under threat and has been for some years. Allowing so many people in from far-off countries was stupid, and especially in 2016 when Merkel opened the borders to something like a million migrants to Germany alone.  If refugees feel they are under military threat or political or religious persecution, then it seems to me that neighboring countries are where they should resettle, not fifteen countries or whatever away in a different continent.  No doubt that most are actually economic migrants looking for a better life.  How many countries separate the Congo and, say, a destination country like Sweden?  Without looking on a map, I would say maybe twelve.

 

All right.  I've just looked, and it's only eight, but there are some amazingly big stretched-out countries along the way such as Libya and Chad. And if they take the scenic route along the African coast, then it adds another three or so countries to their trip. So, in order to get to the first safe country, migrants fleeing persecution or whatever will have had to pass up at least seven entire countries on the way to Sweden.  Well, sounds perfectly reasonable to me. 

 

I can't actually blame them for looking for a better life, but I think it's the responsibility of host nations not to be stupid.  

 

Here's something that might get your blood up.  When I lived in Denmark-- this was in the 90s-- I happened to meet a refugee from, I think, Lebanon or somewhere else in the Middle East. He and his family had settled in Denmark some years earlier. He was very open.  He told me how much he and his family were getting in public assistance.  I don't remember the exact numbers now, but I remember the totals were staggering. Something like 17,000 DKK/ month (over $2,000) each for him and his wife and then maybe 9,000 DKK for each of their many children. I think they had maybe five. And maybe there was even a grandmother living with them. On top of that, the state also provided a free house for his family to live in.  Well, I have this really vivid recollection of this man saying, with his arms wide open and a big smile on his face,  "I love Denmark! I really do. Denmark is a lovely, lovely country!"

 

Well, no wonder he loved Denmark.  Where else could this man find suckers willing to house and give good cash money to strangers from far away.

 

I don't think the welfare model was originally designed to cope with the influx of people like this, so, yes, no wonder they've had to cut back on the social programs.

 

By contrast, the Tory government here in England give welfare recipients just enough to scrape by on each month. And what about the US?  Do they give more than a couple of nickles and a button these days?  I remember when I was still living there-- also in the 90s-- I had a Ukrainian friend who was working full time --she had a fantastic work ethic actually-- but when she first came to the US (she was still learning English at that point) and went to a government welfare office, she was actually turned away. "But you're white. You should easily be able to get a job," they told her. 

 

Sack, don't you love it when we can agree on the same people or things to hate?  I think it really brings us closer together.  And notice how nice I was not to say one single unkind word directly against the one you love?

 

 

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On 2/27/2020 at 4:18 PM, Professor Pigworth said:

https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/rankings_by_country.jsp

https://www.infoplease.com/world/health-and-social-statistics/life-expectancy-countries

I typed in "healthcare rankings by country" and "life expectancy by country" on Google. They were the first sources that came up. 

I used to live and work in Denmark.  It's not perfect, but is the quality of life better than the US and UK (where I now live) and most other countries?  Yes. 

But shouldn't we be striving for perfection? I think we should.

Why is it that far to many people seem to be okay with setting the bar so low?

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4 hours ago, Professor Pigworth said:

 

By contrast, the Tory government here in England give welfare recipients just enough to scrape by on each month. And what about the US?  Do they give more than a couple of nickles and a button these days?  I remember when I was still living there-- also in the 90s-- I had a Ukrainian friend who was working full time --she had a fantastic work ethic actually-- but when she first came to the US (she was still learning English at that point) and went to a government welfare office, she was actually turned away. "But you're white. You should easily be able to get a job," they told her. 

Sack, don't you love it when we can agree on the same people or things to hate?  I think it really brings us closer together.  And notice how nice I was not to say one single unkind word directly against the one you love?

Thank you for this post, it highlights some common ground we have here. US welfare varies by state with some being more lucrative than others. The last I heard about NY's programs being on full welfare and social services was the equivalent of a $40K a year job with full benefits but obviously you won't get that kind of compensation in a state like Albama. I feel like these programs are largely temporary measures and long term sustenance on them should be reserved for the truly elderly and disabled. Any able bodied young person should not be able to abuse them though we do have unenforced laws on the books that are supposed the prevent this.


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7 hours ago, jamsim67 said:

But shouldn't we be striving for perfection? I think we should.

Why is it that far to many people seem to be okay with setting the bar so low?

I think we should try to get to tolerable before we think about striving for perfection


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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

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1 hour ago, HipKat said:

I think we should try to get to tolerable before we think about striving for perfection

That right there is a big problem.

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2 hours ago, jamsim67 said:

That right there is a big problem.

Exactly! Can you rethink about anything else if we can’t even get to where we can tolerate each other


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

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3 hours ago, HipKat said:

Exactly! Can you rethink about anything else if we can’t even get to where we can tolerate each other

Aside from Fatally Flawed, I can tolerate everyone here

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8 hours ago, jamsim67 said:

Aside from Fatally Flawed, I can tolerate everyone here

I'm old, my tolerance for bullshit is very, very low


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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On 2/28/2020 at 12:07 AM, HipKat said:

I don't hate half the country. I hate that less than half the country (40%, unwavering, is not half the  country) has been sucked into this delusion and/or that they've been exposed as the subhumans that they are

I think half the country are just sick of being taken advantage of simple as that. Don't need to hate on everyone for feeling that way 

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2 hours ago, rcas0308 said:

I think half the country are just sick of being taken advantage of simple as that. Don't need to hate on everyone for feeling that way 

That's a good post, and a good way of putting it.

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3 hours ago, HipKat said:

I'm old, my tolerance for bullshit is very, very low

At the end of the day we're all Bill's fans ... I think

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6 minutes ago, jamsim67 said:

At the end of the day we're all Bill's fans ... I think

Except for lit 

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17 minutes ago, rcas0308 said:

Except for lit 

Or Fatally Flawed :-)

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