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Biden just said what I’ve been saying for years

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4 hours ago, Meathead said:

of course middle class taxes are going to go up. DUH

but for that increase you are getting an extremely valuable resource. and if done right, you wont have to pay any premiums

and after a disgusting several decades where the income increases have flowed mostly to the richest people for no good fucking reason at all, we will be soaking the fuck out of the rich to bring the income gap down to something that isnt grotesque and embarrassing

"whaaa". mh wants to steal money from people that earned it. no, mh wants to balance the playing field, stop rich people from accumulating more by making electronic transactions that create virtually zero jobs and just pad rich peoples accounts with money that comes from a source poor and middle class people cant access

"If done right".  LOL.

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1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/single-payer-system-could-save-us-massive-administrative-costs-2020-1

Slash the military budget in half (it will still be more than the next highest country)

And cutting out the middle man and paper work saves 600 billion.

Damn that's almost a trillion right there.

You are a fucking idiot.

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20 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

"In that analysis, the Urban Institute calculated that under a single-payer plan that looks a lot like Medicare for All, costs would total $59 trillion over a decade"

Ok everyone. Find the $59 trillion we need.

That's nearly $6 Billion per year.

The ENTIRE FEDERAL BUDGET is $4.45 billion per year. 

The urban institute study is flawed.


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4 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

You are a fucking idiot.

Boasted the idiot ironically.

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14 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

The urban institute study is flawed.

To be honest, most of the studies are pretty similar (within 10 trillion).


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25 minutes ago, HipKat said:

If paying for Health Care exceeds the entire budget, then the problem isn't paying for Health Care, it's the cost of Health Care

So now you want override market economics and force companies to sell products for what you want them to sell?


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Just now, LiterateStylish said:

To be honest, most of the studies are pretty similar (within 10 trillion).

 

1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

So now you want override market economics and force companies to sell products for what you want them to sell?

LOL why are other countries buying the same prescriptions for half the price? 

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2 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

To be honest, most of the studies are pretty similar (within 10 trillion).

So....


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40 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

You can still cut the military budget SIGNIFICANTLY and still pay everyone. LOL

333.9 bilion of the 496 billion budget goes to maintenance and personnel. 

So... what do you want to cut?


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1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

333.9 bilion of the 496 billion budget goes to maintenance and personnel. 

So... what do you want to cut?

Where are your numbers? From what I saw about 23% goes to salaries and benefits.


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Just now, f8ta1ity54 said:

Where are your numbers? From what I saw about 23% goes to salaries and benefits.

"Of the $496 billion base budget, the vast majority of funding goes towards the cost of operating and maintaining the military and the cost of paying and caring for military personnel."

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3 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

"Of the $496 billion base budget, the vast majority of funding goes towards the cost of operating and maintaining the military and the cost of paying and caring for military personnel."

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I dont think these numbers are what they were in 2015, besides the fact we spend even more now.


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4 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

LOL why are other countries buying the same prescriptions for half the price? 

Why do prescription medicines cost more in the United States?

 

The United States allows drugmakers to set their own prices for a given product — and allows every drug that's proven to be safe come onto market. And the problems that causes are easy to see, from the high copays at the drugstore to the people who can’t afford lifesaving medications.

What’s harder to see is that if we did lower drug prices, we would be making a trade-off. Lowering drug profits would make pharmaceuticals a less desirable industry for investors. And less investment in drugs would mean less research toward new and innovative cures.

There’s this analogy that Craig Garthwaite, a professor at Kellogg School of Management who studies drug prices, gave me that helped make this clear. Think about a venture capitalist who is deciding whether to invest $10 million in a social media app or a cure for pancreatic cancer.

“As you decrease the potential profits I’m going to make from pancreatic cures, I’m going to shift more of my investment over to apps or just keep the money in the bank and earn the money I make there,” Garthwaite says.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/11/30/12945756/prescription-drug-prices-explained

 

 

 


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2 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I dont think these numbers are what they were in 2015, besides the fact we spend even more now.

The pure numbers may not be, but the percentages are likely close.

Here's the thing - there is no easy answer.

If there were an easy answer, we would fix it. 

But when you want to spend $59 TRILLION dollars, it has to come from somewhere.

Someone is going to lose out, or take a paycut, or pay much higher taxes ... so you can have your viagra ;)


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12 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

Why do prescription medicines cost more in the United States?

The United States allows drugmakers to set their own prices for a given product — and allows every drug that's proven to be safe come onto market. And the problems that causes are easy to see, from the high copays at the drugstore to the people who can’t afford lifesaving medications.

What’s harder to see is that if we did lower drug prices, we would be making a trade-off. Lowering drug profits would make pharmaceuticals a less desirable industry for investors. And less investment in drugs would mean less research toward new and innovative cures.

There’s this analogy that Craig Garthwaite, a professor at Kellogg School of Management who studies drug prices, gave me that helped make this clear. Think about a venture capitalist who is deciding whether to invest $10 million in a social media app or a cure for pancreatic cancer.

“As you decrease the potential profits I’m going to make from pancreatic cures, I’m going to shift more of my investment over to apps or just keep the money in the bank and earn the money I make there,” Garthwaite says.

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/11/30/12945756/prescription-drug-prices-explained

Sounds like prescriptions should be a public utility. 

Regardless, prescription drug reform is needed. This lowers that flawed 59 trillion dollar study you keep citing.


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1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Sounds like prescriptions should be a public utility. 

Regardless, prescription drug reform is needed. This lowers that flawed 59 trillion dollar study you keep citing.

What you're describing is taking away the free market model.

That is literally devastating. 

That's changing everything that makes America what it is. The free market.

And extremely flawed, as the quote shows you. I'll paste it again.

"Lowering drug profits would make pharmaceuticals a less desirable industry for investors. And less investment in drugs would mean less research toward new and innovative cures."


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27 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

So....

So... do you have an extra $40 to $60 trillion laying around to pay for this?

Even Bernie doesn't know where it's coming from. He just says it needs to happen somehow.


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Just now, LiterateStylish said:

What you're describing is taking away the free market model.

That is literally devastating. 

That's changing everything that makes America what it is. The free market.

And extremely flawed, as the quote shows you. I'll paste it again.

"What’s harder to see is that if we did lower drug prices, we would be making a trade-off. Lowering drug profits would make pharmaceuticals a less desirable industry for investors. And less investment in drugs would mean less research toward new and innovative cures."

Not every industry in the market should be a free market. Do we want companies owning all the water too?


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30 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

So now you want override market economics and force companies to sell products for what you want them to sell?

Are you intentionally trying to make up what you are accusing me of saying?


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A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

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HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

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1 minute ago, LiterateStylish said:

What you're describing is taking away the free market model.

That is literally devastating. 

That's changing everything that makes America what it is. The free market.

And extremely flawed, as the quote shows you. I'll paste it again.

"Lowering drug profits would make pharmaceuticals a less desirable industry for investors. And less investment in drugs would mean less research toward new and innovative cures."

If it were up to f8, he would just take your earnings after you’re dead to go to pay for healthcare for all instead of it going to next of kin.

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Just now, LiterateStylish said:

So... do you have an extra $40 to $60 trillion laying around to pay for this?

Even Bernie doesn't know where it's coming from. He just says it needs to happen somehow.

The market untouched will be around the 59 trillion you keep citing. 

Averaging the 5.7% it's supposed increase over the next decade it will be well over 50 trillion.


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2 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

If it were up to f8, he would just take your earnings after you’re dead to go to pay for healthcare for all instead of it going to next of kin.

Not what I said at all. You missed the point.


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24 minutes ago, Angry Byrds said:

If it were up to f8, he would just take your earnings after you’re dead to go to pay for healthcare for all instead of it going to next of kin.

Yep.  What an asshole.

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44 minutes ago, LiterateStylish said:

Why do prescription medicines cost more in the United States?

The United States allows drugmakers to set their own prices for a given product — and allows every drug that's proven to be safe come onto market. And the problems that causes are easy to see, from the high copays at the drugstore to the people who can’t afford lifesaving medications.

Like I said, it's the cost of Health Care


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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