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The US would then have a competent president who is against corporate greed, wants to modernize the US with universal health care.


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2 minutes ago, BertSquirtgum said:

Bernie would be a great candidate to run against Trump. Please Democrats. Please be stupid enough to have him be the candidate to run. 

Be careful for what you wish for! 


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I thought again.. Bernie has zero chance. Trump will dominate the electoral college.

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31 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Be scared trumples, Bernie is going to be YOUR president.

Fantastic news.  I can't wait to become the Scrooge McDuck of free stuff.  :niterider:

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Fuck this team

I'll tie a frying pan to my ass so you hurt your penis, you ****ing homo!

Shut the fuck up dark cloud pussy

Anyone who is foolish enough to not be a Buffalo Bills fan can go f*ck themselves with a wooden shovel handle.

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also, all that shit in your signature is beyond annoying. just like you.

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Anyone that still supports Trump has 2 choices; get deported or stand in front of a firing squad

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Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

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20 minutes ago, Woody said:

Fantastic news.  I can't wait to become the Scrooge McDuck of free stuff.  :niterider:

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Are public goods "free stuff"? 


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47 minutes ago, BertSquirtgum said:

Bernie would be a great candidate to run against Trump. Please Democrats. Please be stupid enough to have him be the candidate to run. 

Yes!  Please.  Nominate the old socialist.

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46 minutes ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Be careful for what you wish for! 

Right back at you shit-for-brains.  Keep wishing for Bernie the socialist.  LOL.  Please make it so.  Please.  Warren's good too.  Bernie or Pocahontas please.

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1 hour ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

I'm not really a polls guy when it comes to small numbers....but...

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-doubles-his-lead-over-donald-trump-hypothetical-general-election-poll-1482075

Be scared trumples, Bernie is going to be YOUR president.

LOL.  If Bernie somehow wins he "won't be my President".  See, I'll act like all the dickish libs who say that about Trump.  I was never such an asshole that I ever said Obongo wasn't my President.  But if socialist Bernie wins, I will.  All decorum has gone out the window.  The behavior by the left these last three years is officially a game changer for many.  Me included.

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14 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Right back at you shit-for-brains.  Keep wishing for Bernie the socialist.  LOL.  Please make it so.  Please.  Warren's good too.  Bernie or Pocahontas please.

Oh man. You got me! If I wanted my own come back, I would have gotten it off your mother's chin.

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38 minutes ago, Woody said:

Fantastic news.  I can't wait to become the Scrooge McDuck of free stuff.  :niterider:

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It's much better for pharmaceutical companies and health insurance companies to stack bundles of cash in an inefficient system.

"U.S. health system costs four times more to run than Canada’s single-payer system

 

 

In the United States, a legion of administrative healthcare workers and health insurance employees who play no direct role in providing patient care costs every American man, woman and child an average of $2,497 per year.

Across the border in Canada, where a single-payer system has been in place since 1962, the cost of administering healthcare is just $551 per person — less than a quarter as much.

That spending mismatch, tallied in a study published this week in the Annals of Internal Medicine, could challenge some assumptions about the relative efficiency of public and private healthcare programs. It could also become a hot political talking point on the American campaign trail as presidential candidates debate the pros and cons of government-funded universal health insurance.

Progressive contenders for the Democratic nomination, including Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, are calling for a “Medicare for All” system. More centrist candidates, including former Vice President Joe Biden and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, have questioned the wisdom of turning the government into the nation’s sole health insurer.

 

It’s been decades since Canada transitioned from a U.S.-style system of private healthcare insurance to a government-run single-payer system. Canadians today do not gnash their teeth about co-payments or deductibles. They do not struggle to make sense of hospital bills. And they do not fear losing their healthcare coverage.

To be sure, wait times for specialist care and some diagnostic imaging are often criticized as too long. But a 2007 study by Canada’s health authority and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found the overall health of Americans and Canadians to be roughly similar.

Some Canadians purchase private supplemental insurance, whose cost is regulated. Outpatient medications are not included in the government plan, but aside from that, coverage of “medically necessary services” is assured from cradle to grave.

The cost of administering this system amounts to 17% of Canada’s national expenditures on health.

 
 

In the United States, twice as much — 34% — goes to the salaries, marketing budgets and computers of healthcare administrators in hospitals, nursing homes and private practices. It goes to executive pay packages which, for five major healthcare insurers, reach close to $20 million or more a year. And it goes to the rising profits demanded by shareholders.

Administering the U.S. network of public and private healthcare programs costs $812 billion each year. And in 2018, 27.9 million Americans remained uninsured, mostly because they could not afford to enroll in the programs available to them.

“The U.S.-Canada disparity in administration is clearly large and growing,” the study authors wrote. “Discussions of health reform in the United States should consider whether $812 billion devoted annually to health administration is money well spent.”

The new figures are based on an analysis of public documents filed by U.S. insurance companies, hospitals, nursing homes, home-care and hospice agencies, and physicians’ offices. Researchers from Hunter College, Harvard Medical School and the University of Ottawa compared those to administrative costs across the Canadian healthcare sector, as detailed by the Canadian Institute for Health Information and a trade association that represents Canada’s private insurers.

Compared to 1999, when the researchers last compared U.S. and Canadian healthcare spending, the costs of administering healthcare insurance have grown in both countries. But the increase has been much steeper in the United States, where a growing number of public insurance programs have increased their reliance on commercial insurers to manage government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid.

As a result, overhead charges by private insurers surged more than any other category of expenditure, the researchers found.

In U.S. states that have retained full control over their Medicaid programs, the growth of administrative costs was negligible, they reported. (The same was true for Canada’s health insurance program.) But in states that shifted most of their Medicaid recipients into private managed care, administrative costs were twice as high.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, a group representing private health insurance companies, said administrative practices shouldn’t be blamed for escalating the cost of care in the United States.

 

“Study after study continues to demonstrate the value of innovative solutions brought by the free market,” AHIP said in a statement. “In head-to-head comparisons, the free market continues to be more efficient than government-run systems.”

AHIP cited a recent report by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), an independent body that advises Congress. The report showed that Medicare Advantage plans — which are privately administered — deliver benefits at 88% of the cost of traditional Medicare.

Even so, the study authors concluded that if the U.S. healthcare system could trim its administrative bloat to bring it in line with Canada’s, Americans could save $628 billion a year while getting the same healthcare.

“The United States is currently wasting at least $600 billion on healthcare paperwork — money that could be saved by going to a simple ‘Medicare for All’ system,” said senior author Dr. Stephanie Woolhandler, a health policy researcher at Hunter College and longtime advocate of single-payer systems.

That sum would be more than enough to extend coverage to the nation’s uninsured, she said."

 

 

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-07/u-s-health-system-costs-four-times-more-than-canadas-single-payer-system

 

 

 


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Just now, f8ta1ity54 said:

Oh man. You got me! If I wanted my own come back, I would have gotten it off your mother's chin.

Once again, shit-for-brains.  You ain't too bright, brah.  Fact.

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1 minute ago, junglesouljah said:

It's much better for pharmaceutical companies and health insurance companies to stack bundles of cash in an inefficient system.

"U.S. health system costs four times more to run than Canada’s single-payer system

In the United States, a legion of administrative healthcare workers and health insurance employees who play no direct role in providing patient care costs every American man, woman and child an average of $2,497 per year.

Across the border in Canada, where a single-payer system has been in place since 1962, the cost of administering healthcare is just $551 per person — less than a quarter as much.

That spending mismatch, tallied in a study published this week in the Annals of Internal Medicine, could challenge some assumptions about the relative efficiency of public and private healthcare programs. It could also become a hot political talking point on the American campaign trail as presidential candidates debate the pros and cons of government-funded universal health insurance.

Progressive contenders for the Democratic nomination, including Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, are calling for a “Medicare for All” system. More centrist candidates, including former Vice President Joe Biden and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, have questioned the wisdom of turning the government into the nation’s sole health insurer.

 

It’s been decades since Canada transitioned from a U.S.-style system of private healthcare insurance to a government-run single-payer system. Canadians today do not gnash their teeth about co-payments or deductibles. They do not struggle to make sense of hospital bills. And they do not fear losing their healthcare coverage.

To be sure, wait times for specialist care and some diagnostic imaging are often criticized as too long. But a 2007 study by Canada’s health authority and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found the overall health of Americans and Canadians to be roughly similar.

Some Canadians purchase private supplemental insurance, whose cost is regulated. Outpatient medications are not included in the government plan, but aside from that, coverage of “medically necessary services” is assured from cradle to grave.

The cost of administering this system amounts to 17% of Canada’s national expenditures on health.

 
 

In the United States, twice as much — 34% — goes to the salaries, marketing budgets and computers of healthcare administrators in hospitals, nursing homes and private practices. It goes to executive pay packages which, for five major healthcare insurers, reach close to $20 million or more a year. And it goes to the rising profits demanded by shareholders.

Administering the U.S. network of public and private healthcare programs costs $812 billion each year. And in 2018, 27.9 million Americans remained uninsured, mostly because they could not afford to enroll in the programs available to them.

“The U.S.-Canada disparity in administration is clearly large and growing,” the study authors wrote. “Discussions of health reform in the United States should consider whether $812 billion devoted annually to health administration is money well spent.”

The new figures are based on an analysis of public documents filed by U.S. insurance companies, hospitals, nursing homes, home-care and hospice agencies, and physicians’ offices. Researchers from Hunter College, Harvard Medical School and the University of Ottawa compared those to administrative costs across the Canadian healthcare sector, as detailed by the Canadian Institute for Health Information and a trade association that represents Canada’s private insurers.

Compared to 1999, when the researchers last compared U.S. and Canadian healthcare spending, the costs of administering healthcare insurance have grown in both countries. But the increase has been much steeper in the United States, where a growing number of public insurance programs have increased their reliance on commercial insurers to manage government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid.

As a result, overhead charges by private insurers surged more than any other category of expenditure, the researchers found.

In U.S. states that have retained full control over their Medicaid programs, the growth of administrative costs was negligible, they reported. (The same was true for Canada’s health insurance program.) But in states that shifted most of their Medicaid recipients into private managed care, administrative costs were twice as high.

America’s Health Insurance Plans, a group representing private health insurance companies, said administrative practices shouldn’t be blamed for escalating the cost of care in the United States.

 

“Study after study continues to demonstrate the value of innovative solutions brought by the free market,” AHIP said in a statement. “In head-to-head comparisons, the free market continues to be more efficient than government-run systems.”

AHIP cited a recent report by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), an independent body that advises Congress. The report showed that Medicare Advantage plans — which are privately administered — deliver benefits at 88% of the cost of traditional Medicare.

Even so, the study authors concluded that if the U.S. healthcare system could trim its administrative bloat to bring it in line with Canada’s, Americans could save $628 billion a year while getting the same healthcare.

“The United States is currently wasting at least $600 billion on healthcare paperwork — money that could be saved by going to a simple ‘Medicare for All’ system,” said senior author Dr. Stephanie Woolhandler, a health policy researcher at Hunter College and longtime advocate of single-payer systems.

That sum would be more than enough to extend coverage to the nation’s uninsured, she said."

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-07/u-s-health-system-costs-four-times-more-than-canadas-single-payer-system

Yawn.  Source?  Thanks for the one sided socialist commercial.  Canadian healthcare sucks.  Why do Canadians come here when it counts?  How long do they have to wait for things like operations?  Please answer and not with a bunch of b.s. this time.

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5 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Once again, shit-for-brains.  You ain't too bright, brah.  Fact.

Oh man! The zingers keep coming! Just like your mother last night!

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1 minute ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Oh man! The zingers keep coming! Just like your mother last night!

Damn, man.  Yo mama jokes?  LOL.  Beyond lame.  More please.

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10 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Once again, shit-for-brains.  You ain't too bright, brah.  Fact.

Derrrr Fact!!! duhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

Ever notice no one ever quotes you unless they're making fun of you?? Sorry I had to be the one to point that out.

 

Oh wait, you went to college, You already knew that

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“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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2 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

LOL.  If Bernie somehow wins he "won't be my President".  See, I'll act like all the dickish libs who say that about Trump.  I was never such an asshole that I ever said Obongo wasn't my President.  But if socialist Bernie wins, I will.  All decorum has gone out the window.  The behavior by the left these last three years is officially a game changer for many.  Me included.

The "socialized" health care system cost less then the current private health care system that makes Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies rich. Why do you want to make insurance and Pharmaceutical companies rich?

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Growing up in Canada I never thought much about the healthcare system. When I moved to the US for graduate school, I knew it was strange to not have universal healthcare, but I had a comprehensive health insurance plan from school, so healthcare wasn't an ever-present issue on my mind. 

That changed six months ago, when I started writing about healthcare as a fellow for Business Insider and needed to choose a plan for the first time. 

As a Canadian reporting on US healthcare, I've gained insight into the complicated and often misunderstood debate in the US over single-payer healthcare, and I think I have some of my own insights to offer.

It's true that in Canada, every person has healthcare coverage. But not all costs are covered by the government — private or employer-based insurance pays for dental visits, eye care and prescription drugs. 

Yes, Canada has private insurance.

As Medicare for All takes center stage in the 2020 Democratic presidential debates, Canada is often used as an example for what the US could be with a single-payer system. Prescription medications at a fraction of the price. No surprise billings. An ambulance ride that won't cost you thousands of dollars. Access to providers at all times. It sounds utopian. 

But even Canada's healthcare system is not as socialized as some other systems. In the UK, the government finances healthcare and has the National Health Service (NHS) providing health services that are essentially free to citizens. The British system is even more socialized than Canada's.

Since my arrival to the US, I have encountered certain misconceptions about the Canadian healthcare system that I would like to dispel.

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Clarrie Feinstein, Business Insider's healthcare fellow  Clarrie Feinstein

Canadian healthcare isn't free 

In general, Canadians pay higher taxes for the country's social safety net, which includes healthcare. In the US, a significant misconception is that people think Canadian healthcare is free. 

But it's paid largely by Canadian tax dollars. While there isn't a designated "healthcare tax," the latest data from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) in 2017 found that on average a Canadian spends $6,604 in taxes for healthcare coverage. It's important to note that number changes depending on income. People with higher incomes pay higher taxes, which ends up covering families who earn less.

This is considered to be on the higher end for what other advanced economies pay, like the UK or Australia. Americans, though, spend more than $10,000 per person on healthcare in total, on average.

Even though Canadians pay higher taxes, it ensures that the majority of health services are covered. This includes hospital stays, surgical and maternity services (childbirth, prenatal, postnatal and newborn care), and prescription drugs while in the hospital.

There are also no bills attached to seeing a physician or healthcare provider for primary care or clinic visits. And because health insurance is public, there are also no deductibles — the amount a person pays before insurance kicks in.

Canadians have private insurance options

In Canada certain medical expenses are not covered, like dental care, vision care, prescription medication, podiatry and chiropractics. 

Often, employers offer supplemental private health insurance to their employees to cover some of the expenses that are not covered under the public healthcare plan.

An area of contention in Canadian healthcare is prescription drug costs — surprising considering the constant coverage in the US, which often favorably compares Canadian drug costs to American. 

Earlier this year, 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders went to Canada to show the inflated cost of insulin for diabetes patients, who can pay up to $300 for a vial of insulin in the US, compared to $30 in Canada. 

Soaring drug prices in the US have become a major point to address in the national healthcare debate. In the US, pharmaceutical companies face little regulation over their prices, compared to Canada, contributing to high drug costs.

Canada's biggest healthcare debate: pharmacare 

Prescription drugs are cheaper in Canada because the government plays a big role in setting their prices.

But a similar battle over drug costs is taking place in Canada. A major issue in the 2019 Canadian federal election was pharmacare, a system which allows the government to help pay for Canadians' prescription drugs. 

Pharmacare is still an undefined concept. It could mean that people who do not have private insurance options through work for prescription drug costs would then have costs covered by the government. Or the government could heavily subsidize the cost for all Canadians, Global News reported.

Recently, the Canadian government announced regulation to reduce patented drug prices which reportedly would save Canadians C$13.2 billion (US$10 billion) over a decade. The move was done with significant opposition from pharmaceutical companies, but is an example of regulating drug costs of drugmakers in Canada, the Guardian reported

Universal healthcare is deeply engrained in Canada's ethos

The idea of universal healthcare—that every citizen has access to healthcare—is a Canadian ethos that is deeply ingrained in the sociopolitical landscape of the country. 

The private healthcare sector in the US allows for more medical innovation, but the high costs and uneven access to care contribute to the country's socioeconomic divides.  

While there are some misconceptions in the US on what Canadian healthcare is and what it covers, there is the basic idea that if one is unemployed or does not make a certain income they will have healthcare coverage. That notion is now at the forefront in America with the Medicare for All debate. "

https://www.businessinsider.com/american-misconceptions-about-canadian-healthcare-2019-11

 


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5 minutes ago, Thebowflexbody said:

Yawn.  Source?  Thanks for the one sided socialist commercial.  Canadian healthcare sucks.  Why do Canadians come here when it counts?  How long do they have to wait for things like operations?  Please answer and not with a bunch of b.s. this time.

Universal health care is not perfect but it's better than the alternative. Shortages of doctors cause long wait times to see your family doctor.

If you have a high disposable income and want to pay for health care than that's an option for you.

Not everyone in society has that option. Health care shouldn't be an option for only the rich or people that have to go into heavy debt to pay for it.


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2 minutes ago, HipKat said:

Derrrr Fact!!! duhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ever notice no one ever quotes you unless they're making fun of you?? Sorry I had to be the one to point that out.

Oh wait, you went to college, You already knew that

And you didn't go to college.  Remember.  LOL

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Just now, junglesouljah said:

Universal health care is not perfect but it's better than the alternative. Shortages of doctors cause long wait times to see your family doctor.

If you have a high disposable income and want to pay for health care than that's an option for you.

Not everyone in society has that option. Health care shouldn't be an option for only the rich or people that have to go into heavy debt to pay for it.

Yeah, but TRUMP said......


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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Just now, Thebowflexbody said:

And you didn't go to college.  Remember.  LOL

I'll put my education up against yours any day. You couldn't begin to imagine the things I've done, seen and learned. Things your paltry little ass would run away from. Seriously, what the FUCK have you ever done? 


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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1 minute ago, HipKat said:

Yeah, but TRUMP said......

Yeah and Trump never lies right? LOL. Trump tells a minimum of 10 lies a day.

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Just now, junglesouljah said:

Yeah and Trump never lies right? LOL. Trump tells a minimum of 10 lies a day.

What's he up to, like 15K now?


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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