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5 hours ago, jc856 said:

When I started working, minimum wage was  $1.85, but nobody expected you to live on it. But you weren’t expected to stay a stock boy at Tops markets forever either.

When minimum-wage was $1.85, you could go to Ford, Chevy, Dupont, Traco, Bethlehem steel and a whole host of other manufacturing jobs where you could work for 40 years. Build a pension. Have a family. Put your kids through school. Buy a house, go on vacation, I have the 2.3 cars in the driveway. You can’t do that anymore. Those jobs have been replaced by Walmart, McDonald’s, the Verizon store, and those jobs don’t pay you enough to live the life that you could previously

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Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

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2 minutes ago, HipKat said:

When minimum-wage was $1.85, you could go to Ford, Chevy, Dupont, Traco, Bethlehem steel and a whole host of other manufacturing jobs where you could work for 40 years. Build a pension. Have a family. Put your kids through school. Buy a house, go on vacation, I have the 2.3 cars in the driveway. You can’t do that anymore. Those jobs have been replaced by Walmart, McDonald’s, the Verizon store, and those jobs don’t pay you enough to live the life that you could previously

Every word of that is the truth. I worked with a guy who worked at Bethlehem steel, quit in the morning, got hired at chevy and was working 2nd shift the same day.

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9 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

My definition of wealthy? 

Probably anyone with a net worth over 500k. 

What is the least amount of money you could live on? No family, living where you are, what amount of money after taxes do you need to live comfortably?

500k wouldn't even get me a 1 bedroom apartment in Inglewood lol

 

I consider wealthy anybody that has assets that are worth at least 5 million.  With 5 million, one could set up a mutual fund and probably make at least 300k a year on that alone.

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8 hours ago, jc856 said:

Why do people shop at Walmart? Well, because of lower prices. Even with the cost of shipping things over here, they can make things cheaper. ONE reason (not the only reason) is cheaper wages. If we sell a widget for 100$, with wages at 10$/hr, and China can sell the same widget for 50$, with wages at 1$/hr, how does it help our workers to raise their pay?
 

whats your solution to this problem?

Make things in the US and dont buy from China 

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6 hours ago, travolta said:

I need to make 1 million per year. I support a family, send kids to college, pay for nannies, landscapers, built a pool. I pay 1/2 of that to the government. That’s 500k. How much was your fair share of 30k income?

If your goal is to live on 30k per year, go for it. The guy making 1 million or 10 million is paying a shitload more in taxes than you. So you have no right to squawk about fair share. My suggestion to you is raise your expectations and go earn a better income. 

Check out Brian Tracy, Jim Rohn, Tony Robbins and get motivated. 

The difference is its much easier to survive on 500k than it is 30k after taxes.

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10 hours ago, miamibillsnut said:

What was the middle class is now the wealthy to the leftyl liberals.  

If you work and make more  than minimum wage and own a house and responsible with your money you are wealthy.

All part of the move to reward the lazy reckless  entitled wave of millennials and entice them with lies of free this and free that and the bigger lie of how great socialism is. 

I live in Miami and me and my wife are around there and are doing fine.  Home 2 cars vacations no credit card debt.  We aren't reckless with our money.

This.  Game-Set-Match.

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10 hours ago, jc856 said:

Ok, you’ve convinced me. I don’t want to be a slave anymore. What should I (we, I’m assuming I can’t do it alone) do?Do you have a rational plan to take back our lives? Or do we need to storm the Bastille?  What is your ideas on saving us from the govt?

LOL.  Really.

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How about this? EVERYONE pays the exact same percentage of their own income? I think it should be that simple.

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17 hours ago, jc856 said:

I think you can have all your needs met for 30k, roughly 15/hour for 40 hrs/week. 10$/hr would be sacrificing some luxuries.

Assuming you get healthcare benifits at work

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12 minutes ago, Flan said:

Assuming you get healthcare benifits at work

I do they still cost me almost $1000 a month


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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17 hours ago, BuffaBri said:

Wow really dude 30k where did you "dig deeper" to find that or did you just pull it out of your ass. Never mind I know the answer.

As far as what do liberals consider wealthy I can only speak for myself and keep in mind I used to be registered independent for many years until I decided I wanted a vote in the primaries that counted.

It is difficult to answer but I don't think it would be any different regardless of political affiliation. Most people I have seen throughout my life spend sooo much money on stupid shit it is unreal the cash must literally burn a hole in some peoples pockets unless they spend it whereas if they just did smart thing with their money earlier well then hell you could say 40-50k a year salary for 30 years would do it.

However if any of you wingnuts every really listened to some of these candidates they are only talking about the elites mainly the top 1%... Ever heard anyone say that like a bazillion times before?

Also must mention I hate the tax bracket jumps it really should increase more gradual from bottom to top. Lower at the bottom and higher at the top I can't fathom why anyone wouldn't be able to grasp that concept.

https://financeweb.org/personal-finance/new-tax-brackets-2018/

You realize the entire tax system in the US was a bait and switch proposition of taxing only the wealthy?  Now we all pay taxes.. I wouldn't trust their bullshit of the top 1%, soon it will be the 10% then the 20, 50 etc.

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6 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

The difference is its much easier to survive on 500k than it is 30k after taxes.

Still - the guy making 500k is paying 150k per year in taxes compared to almost zero from the 30k. 

Economics 101 - if you tax the earners too much, they will not have an incentive to keep earning, pricing jobs, spending, etc....

Are the politicians peddling this BS living on 30k per year? Look at Obama, 2nd home for 14 million. They can enjoy success but I need to live on 30k per year? If people would just work harder instead of complaining about the scraps the politicians throw them, they would be a lot better off. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Make things in the US and dont buy from China 

Sounds great! Why didn’t I think of that! Now, tell me how you’ll get that done?

im all in for buying American. I try to when I can, but don’t always. Seems like a lost cause unless you get everyone to do it.

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Minimum wage jobs are either dead end jobs or entry-level stepping stones.  Either way, if you don't have the ambition to do better, it's mostly your own fault if you are not handicapped.  Get a career, not a job.  McDonalds is for students, not for career burger flippers.  

 

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22 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

My definition of wealthy? 

Probably anyone with a net worth over 500k. 

What is the least amount of money you could live on? No family, living where you are, what amount of money after taxes do you need to live comfortably?

that is really low.

most homes in any major mid or even lower cities are worth close to that and many much much more. Toss is a couple cars and some svaings or 401 k and 500 k is not as much as it use to be.

 

I would start at 2 million for me to think you are wealthy.

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48 minutes ago, cba fan said:

that is really low.

most homes in any major mid or even lower cities are worth close to that and many much much more. Toss is a couple cars and some svaings or 401 k and 500 k is not as much as it use to be.

I would start at 2 million for me to think you are wealthy.

I'd day 6-8 million.  500K???  If that's wealthy to the Nancy Pelosi's of the world we're all doomed.

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3 hours ago, Thebowflexbody said:

What kind of shitty plan is that?

uhhh, Blue Cross?? No, it's the stupid shit my company can afford to participate in because instead of fixing Health Care, your fucking Right Wing friends in Washington are so busy sucking Big Pharma and the Insurance Companies' CEO's cocks to actually fix the fucking thing


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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14 minutes ago, HipKat said:

uhhh, Blue Cross?? No, it's the stupid shit my company can afford to participate in because instead of fixing Health Care, your fucking Right Wing friends in Washington are so busy sucking Big Pharma and the Insurance Companies' CEO's cocks to actually fix the fucking thing

I thought Obongo fixed healthcare?? You didnt see your costs go down by $2500 a year?

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7 minutes ago, DeRokerij said:

I thought Obongo fixed healthcare?? You didnt see your costs go down by $2500 a year?

LOL. Yeah he gave them access to the largest customer base they've ever had and if you didn't sign up the government fined you. And now with the government subsidies they add a little extra cheese on top since the customer won't notice driving the costs up. Genius.


Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!"

 

"But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell... We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here."

 

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8 minutes ago, SackMan518 said:

LOL. Yeah he gave them access to the largest customer base they've ever had and if you didn't sign up the government fined you. And now with the government subsidies they add a little extra cheese on top since the customer won't notice driving the costs up. 

Say thank you to Mitt Romney.


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40 minutes ago, DeRokerij said:

I thought Obongo fixed healthcare?? You didnt see your costs go down by $2500 a year?

Fuck no. You didn't see me bitching about his fucked up health care disaster ever since I been on here


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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13 hours ago, f8ta1ity54 said:

Say thank you to Mitt Romney.

I'll never say thanks to that steaming pile of shit.


Sack "The Buffalo Range's TRUSTED News Source!"

 

"But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell... We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here."

 

- Howard Beale, Network

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Just now, SackMan518 said:

I'll never say thanks to that steaming pile of shit.

What makes him a pile of shit again?


“There he goes. One of God's own prototypes.

A high-powered mutant of some kind, never even considered for mass production.

Too weird to live, and too rare to die.”

 

Twitter: @HKTheResistance

 

HipKat, on *** other h***, is genuine, unapoli***tically nasty, and w**** his hea** on his ******. jc856

I’ll just forward them to Bridgett. comssvet11

Seek help. soflabillsfan

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