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Could be who the teams have played. Could be that we have a great running back. Arent we last in many many passing categories that would be a better gauge of Taylor?

 

Also, as you have said many thanks times, stats don't tell the entire story. Open your eyes...Taylor isn't good enough at throwing the football to win big games in this league.

 

We've had a great RB every year since Taylor has been here.

 

This is the first year we have been last in passing.


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I'm arguing that if we draft a STUD, he isn't going to look very studly with Dennison as his OC.

 

If we draft the 5th best QB and Dennison brings him down to 12, We are still a contender.

 

Im all for firing dennison, I just refuse to give tyrod a pass. They are both turds that need to be flushed. I just accept that its more Likely Dennison can get by with a stud than tyrod could with any guru.

 

Roman and Lynn did amazing work with him and he was still 24th best in the NFL.

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We've had a great RB every year since Taylor has been here.

 

This is the first year we have been last in passing.

 

The great RB hasnt always been healthy. Oh, am I still allowed to post that, or will you throw a fit now?


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I'm arguing that if we draft a STUD, he isn't going to look very studly with Dennison as his OC.

 

Coaches don't play the game, Tyrod sucks as a passer and it shows. I'm not saying it's not Dennisons fault either but do you think Taylor could fare well in a west coast offense? I don't..

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This isn't a binary problem...it's not a question of whether Tyrod sucks or Dennison sucks.

 

Perhaps they are both extremely mediocre.

 

Can you get to the playoffs with a QB like Tyrod? Yes, history has shown that you can. But if your life depended on it, I'm guessing no one here would follow the model of having a QB like Tyrod take you to the promised land.

 

Right now, Tyrod is throwing to some pretty underwhelming receivers. That being said, some of the receivers who were here during his tenure are now elsewhere and are now thriving. Could there be a connection?

 

Marquise "freaking" Goodwin is going to be a 1,000 yard receiver this year.

 

Robert Woods (with all apologies to Kupp) has been the Rams' best receiver, and if he hadn't been injured for a couple of games, Wood would have certainly been over 1,000 yards

 

Sammy has been average with the Rams, but I think that's more about him than the QB situation.

 

As for Dennison, I remember that Rex Ryan was villified for taking a top notch defense and ruining it by imposing his system upon the team. Dennison certainly deserves the same harsh criticism for his decision to run a zone blocking scheme in the run game. Our number one rushing attack has been throttled. As for Tyrod, Dennison tried to make him something that he wasn't, and after it became apparent that Tyrod was not going to succeed under that system, he made slight adjustments. The results even then were underwhelming. Tyrod can make plays, can be spectacular, and won't turn over the ball...the problem is that he can't consistently be productive.

 

Time to give them both a one-way ticket out of town.


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Coaches don't play the game, Tyrod sucks as a passer and it shows. I'm not saying it's not Dennisons fault either but do you think Taylor could fare well in a west coast offense? I don't..

 

We had a top 10 offense last year and Tyrod was our QB.


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If we draft the 5th best QB and Dennison brings him down to 12, We are still a contender.

 

Im all for firing dennison, I just refuse to give tyrod a pass. They are both turds that need to be flushed. I just accept that its more Likely Dennison can get by with a stud than tyrod could with any guru.

 

Roman and Lynn did amazing work with him and he was still 24th best in the NFL.

 

This post wins the thread. Just shut i down Lit.

 

Most people agree that Dennison is a moron. Its not a one or the other situation. They cn both be part of the problem. Why you continue to think Taylor is being held back or something like that is ridiculous. He's average on the best of his days.


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This post wins the thread. Just shut i down Lit.

 

Most people agree that Dennison is a moron. Its not a one or the other situation. They cn both be part of the problem. Why you continue to think Taylor is being held back or something like that is ridiculous. He's average on the best of his days.

 

Is it because he's black?


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like ive said, tyrod has shown improvement. still not even close enough to have confidence in as a franchise guy, but if he keeps going he could become one

 

i doubt he does but you never know. his progress has been slower than youd want even for a rookie, and he had five years in the league prior to this

 

hes a teaser, thats for sure. still not near good enough to rely on long term, but i wouldnt mind him starting ahead of a mid-first round pick in september


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The only way lit shuts up is if he feels he wins.

 

Yes lit, Dennison blows. We all agree. Goodnight sweet prince.

 

So does tyrod.

 

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Ok, 24.

 

That means he is better than at least 7 starting QB's.

 

Yet our offense is dead last.

 

QB is 25th, but offense is 32nd.

 

Hmm.. Why would that be?

 

Could it be OC?

 

So who can we get to be our OC?

 

I am all for it..........I just don't know who might be available.


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Ok, 24.

 

That means he is better than at least 7 starting QB's.

 

Yet our offense is dead last.

 

QB is 25th, but offense is 32nd.

 

Hmm.. Why would that be?

 

Could it be OC?

 

Because your QB makes you one dimensional. The other team knows you cant beat them by throwing so they can load up on the run...and when they do that and you SHOULD be able to throw because of more single coverage..Tyrod STILL cant throw...his biggest issue is he doesnt throw to what many people , other GOOD QB, experts,analysts that used to be good QB's , consider NFL open guys because its "too risky" and he wont take risks. HE IS NOT THE WORST STARTING QB IN THE LEAGUE...he is below average though and in the bottom half of starters..probably as you say around 7-10th worst so of 32 teams id rank him..what....25th-20th best max....and if you want to be a consistent playoff team you need more than that..OR you need a better D....better yet how about being decent in both or closer to the top in O and near the top 10 in D with a good turnover ratio....there will be a few teams that get into the playoffs with QB's as good or worse than Tyrod..but they also have better D's at this point also(Jags)...If we had Jags D we would make the playoffs too IMO..I think as long as they fill holes in the draft they will be well on their way to being better in everything but QB coming up..that IMO will take a step back unfortunately.


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We've had a great RB every year since Taylor has been here.

 

This is the first year we have been last in passing.

 

You're right. This years disaster is a far cry from the previous two seasons when we ranked 28th and 30th. Goddamn you for ruining such a great thing, Dennison!!!!!

 

We have been a bottom of the barrel passing team for forever. Please don't think I'm endorsing Dennison...he should be let go as well.

 

The most important thing McDermott can do for 2018 is to completely revamp his offense by firing Dennison and moving on from Taylor. Draft a QB, sign a QB...whatever...and pair him with a young OC who understands modern passing concepts.

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You're right. This years disaster is a far cry from the previous two seasons when we ranked 28th and 30th. Goddamn you for ruining such a great thing, Dennison!!!!!

 

We have been a bottom of the barrel passing team for forever. Please don't think I'm endorsing Dennison...he should be let go as well.

 

The most important thing McDermott can do for 2018 is to completely revamp his offense by firing Dennison and moving on from Taylor. Draft a QB, sign a QB...whatever...and pair him with a young OC who understands modern passing concepts.

 

Our offense was #16 last year and #13 the year before...


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Three different offensive coordinators has worked with Tyrod. Tyrod has been the same piece of turd the past 3 years.

 

Offense rankings...

 

2017: 32nd

2016: 16th

2015: 13th

 

Tyrod has been QB all 3 years.


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Our offense was #16 last year and #13 the year before...

 

Stop flip flopping. We were talking about passing offense. Not total offense.

 

I don't love what Dennison did with the run game (even though it's still top 10). But Tyrod is not his fault.

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We've had a great RB every year since Taylor has been here.

 

This is the first year we have been last in passing.

 

Having perhaps the weakest (and least consistent) WR corps in the league may have a little something to do with it too. Oh, and the OL troubles as our QBs have had to run for their lives a lot. Oh, and there's the trouble getting the run game going. Oh, and maybe a decrease in T.O.P. (I'd have to check that) because the defense can't tackle, stop the run, and get off the field.


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Having perhaps the weakest (and least consistent) WR corps in the league may have a little something to do with it too. Oh, and the OL troubles as our QBs have had to run for their lives a lot. Oh, and there's the trouble getting the run game going. Oh, and maybe a decrease in T.O.P. (I'd have to check that) because the defense can't tackle, stop the run, and get off the field.

 

Well, to your point about the group of WRs I'd say that he wasn't able to do any better than 28th with a group of guys that included Watkins, Woods, and Goodwin. Watkins and Wood are a large part of the Rams high flying offense and Goodwin is having a really good year too. So even when he had a better group, he didn't do much with it.

 

Our OL has issues but so do a lot of teams.

 

Trouble getting the run game going? We are currently 6th in the league in rushing. We are 13th in yards per attempt at 4.2. If we were at 4.5 we'd be in the top 5...that's how close it is. And if Taylor needs a better rushing attack than that to be effective then THAT'S A PROBLEM!!!! Its fair to want a QB that can move the ball when the run is shut down.

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1 Tom Brady

2 Ben Roethlisberger

3 Philip Rivers

4 Matthew Stafford

5 Drew Brees

6 Alex Smith

7 Kirk Cousins

8 Jared Goff

9 Matt Ryan

10 Russell Wilson

11 Blake Bortles

12 Case Keenum

13 Eli Manning

14 Carson Wentz

15 Derek Carr

16 Dak Prescott

17 Jameis Winston

18 Cam Newton

19 Andy Dalton

19 Marcus Mariota

21 Jacoby Brissett

23 Josh McCown

24 Jay Cutler

25 Tyrod Taylor

26 DeShone Kizer

27 Trevor Siemian

28 Mitchell Trubisky

29 Carson Palmer

30 Deshaun Watson

31 Aaron Rodgers

32 Brett Hundley

33 C.J. Beathard

34 Tom Savage

35 Jimmy Garoppolo

36 Ryan Fitzpatrick

37 Brock Osweiler

38 Blaine Gabbert

39 Matt Moore

40 Mike Glennon

41 Drew Stanton

42 Kevin Hogan

43 Nick Foles

44 T.J. Yates

45 Sam Bradford

46 Bryce Petty

47 EJ Manuel

48 Nathan Peterman

49 Geno Smith

50 Matt Cassel

 

And he could've been worse since Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson are injured and Jimmy G just started a few games. Otherwise I think he is 28 out of 32.

 

Plus the bottom list is not impressive at all. So he is better than a bunch of scrubs. Woo hoo.:duh!:

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1 Tom Brady

2 Ben Roethlisberger

3 Philip Rivers

4 Matthew Stafford

5 Drew Brees

6 Alex Smith

7 Kirk Cousins

8 Jared Goff

9 Matt Ryan

10 Russell Wilson

11 Blake Bortles

12 Case Keenum

13 Eli Manning

14 Carson Wentz

15 Derek Carr

16 Dak Prescott

17 Jameis Winston

18 Cam Newton

19 Andy Dalton

19 Marcus Mariota

21 Jacoby Brissett

23 Josh McCown

24 Jay Cutler

25 Tyrod Taylor

26 DeShone Kizer

27 Trevor Siemian

28 Mitchell Trubisky

29 Carson Palmer

30 Deshaun Watson

31 Aaron Rodgers

32 Brett Hundley

33 C.J. Beathard

34 Tom Savage

35 Jimmy Garoppolo

36 Ryan Fitzpatrick

37 Brock Osweiler

38 Blaine Gabbert

39 Matt Moore

40 Mike Glennon

41 Drew Stanton

42 Kevin Hogan

43 Nick Foles

44 T.J. Yates

45 Sam Bradford

46 Bryce Petty

47 EJ Manuel

48 Nathan Peterman

49 Geno Smith

50 Matt Cassel

 

And he could've been worse since Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson are injured and Jimmy G just started a few games. Otherwise I think he is 28 out of 32.

 

Plus the bottom list is not impressive at all. So he is better than a bunch of scrubs. Woo hoo.:duh!:

 

Ok, 25.

 

That means he is better than at least 7 starting QB's.

 

Yet our offense is dead last.

 

QB is 25th, but offense is 32nd.

 

Hmm.. Why would that be?

 

Could it be OC?


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Ok, 25.

 

That means he is better than at least 7 starting QB's.

 

Yet our offense is dead last.

 

QB is 25th, but offense is 32nd.

 

Hmm.. Why would that be?

 

Could it be OC?

 

Yes and ..... drum roll .......... also the QB !


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